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Kevin Bass, BTW, became a “relevant” medical commentator for pumping out absurd, vitriolic, unhinged hit tweets against anti-establishment science writers in the field of diet and nutrition.

He’s totally devoted to The Science in that realm, and has done everything he can to propagandize against those who offer reasoned critiques against it.

You can disagree with the perspectives presented by Taubes or Teicholz, but they’ve undoubtedly produced formidable scholarship/journalism that should be dealt with in kind — not through character assassination, strawmanning, etc.

Bass has long been a power serving sycophant — now deployed as an operative of some kind.

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Thank you for sharing.

I deliberately avoided looking into his background or doing any type of a character assassination on him because Newsweek was publishing this (and edited it) so I viewed it as Newsweek's position stated by a third party (a medical student). My view instead was the article should be judged by exactly what it said and nothing else.

I thought they chose a med student to write it so it could sound official (and medical) without them having to commit to a doctor stating it, plus people would be less likely to attack a medical student (although as a year 7 MD PhD he basically is a doctor).

I wrote more about the third party technique here:

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/what-is-the-third-party-technique

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I'm an RN, not a doctor, but I thought after 4 years of med school one became an MD, then residency and fellowships continue one's training but under the title of officially being a doctor.

"7th year med student" makes him sound like he was held back, like a "16 year old 8th grader".

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MD/PhD programs are 7 to 8 years.

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So basically it takes that long to fully indoctrinate them into Allopathy. I worked in hospice / chronic care but follow holistic medicine models in my life. We are now at an existential crisis. And its about time

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One has to ask if anyone should enter conventional "healthcare"? Isn't it a giagantic ethical mess and series of major compromises on real health care, ie how do you treat the core health issues, not the symptoms?

I would say that only alternative, chiropractic, herbalist, and other similar practitioners could possibly make proper diagnostics and recommendations.

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Thanks. I guess for some folks 8 years of college just isn't enough!

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My thoughts too

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Agree the identity of the author isn't germane to your analysis. It's just very, very, very conspicuous THIS DUDE shows up as the "medical student" speaking truth to power.

He's a self-declared dietary science "misinformation" buster. A volunteer fact-checker working hard on behalf of the status-quo.

Spidey sense is he's being groomed for, or at least posturing for, some kind of promotion where he might wield his mythbusting wand more prominently.

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Prominently "speaking truth to power" or engineering attention in other ways would seem to be consistent for a guy with a last name such as his which likely indicates that he's from a ruling class family. Usually they come out of nowhere and are rocketed quickly to positions of influence and authority, which hasn't happened to him though, so my suspicions could be off mark. What I mean by that is that he should've whizzed through all that skooling in a couple of years. Kinda like young generals that get decorated like Christmas trees in no time flat.

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No doubt a student of Peter Hotez, who in 2018 published "Crafting Your Scientist Brand" https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3000024.

Now that he's got all this attention, he just launched a substack that will be selling supplements and dietary advice.

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I sense that too .. maybe he wants to be David Gorski ("Science Based Medicine")when he grows up ~ https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-rounding-the-gorski-challenge

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I shall never again buy a pair of Bass shoes or shop at a Bass Pro Shop. No telling what else they're into, and it's probably best not to know.

Still...I can resist anything. Except temptation.

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I could not care less what a medical student has to say in this matter unless it's about his experiences in the system. On the other hand, it shows very clearly that even as a fledgling he's already adopted the attitude superior taken by many establishment medicos as well as a wholly undeserved sense of authority so i suppose that's useful to see.

To put even a weak apology to the public onto a student instead of a head of FDA or similar person also illustrates contempt for the public.

"Get the apprentice to do it, those in charge have no time!"

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That makes me imagine a hospital press conference, and it’s beyond a stretch to think a medical student would be anywhere near the mic.

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Damage control. Complete with an "authority."

Makes me trust 'em even less, which I didn't think was possible.

If I can't ignore 'em, I laugh at 'em. Been laughing a lot lately.

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It is our failed culture. Those who aquire power have zero responsibility to the public. Their only responsibility is to themselves maintaining or if possible acquiring more power

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I think this is what they call a limited hang out. Very limited.

Like sending the rookie in to test the radiation level.

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Or the old life cereal commercial, “ here’s Mikey get Mikey to try it he’ll eat anything!”

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'Zackly!

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Article no longer there lol

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Pure manipulation, including the choice of message presenter. He is "one of us," they would have you believe. He represents the caring side of these Sonderkommandos. The article is to soften the intensity of the response to what they have been unsuccessful at hiding (completely).

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Yup.

Here’s what I wrote to one of the more prominent know-it-alls at a well known “libertarian” site who wrote, “The Maskers Just Took a Beating,” published today.

You wrote, “[The Cochrane report] is highly respected, and is known for its serious research methods.”

That was the case but Cochrane lost much of its credibility when they forced one of its founders out.

Their pathetic “admission” should be seen for what it is, a pathetic attempt to reestablish credibility. It’s similar to Newsweek’s attempt with its “apology” no doubt ghost written by a team of professionals and “authored” by the soi disant authority with the name of Bass as in Bass Pro Shops, Bass shoes, and no telling what else. The propagandist is probably a member of one of the richest families in Texas, according to Forbes, and in this context I believe that could tell us something useful.

Since I stopped reading after your first claim, you may have already addressed the possibility. If so, good for you. If not, you may want to pay closer attention to how the skunks operate and act (write) accordingly.

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"I could not care less what a medical student has to say in this matter unless it's about his experiences in the system. "

Or unless he comes clean about his motives and background. Even then I wouldn't bet the bank on its veracity. He's likely nothing more than a Billy Gates who's made to appear that he's at least completed kollitch and therefore must be more "authoritative" on the matters at hand.

One simply doesn't get published in the rags without connections.

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He's probably not just some plebian med student and I doubt he wrote it. The name alone suggests otherwise...and gives us a clue as to what it is, I think.

I do heartily agree with the idea that the thing should be judged on it's own merits and you did a(nother) masterful job. It's up to us to check out and comment on his background for confirmation or suspicion of our own conclusions but only after reading it and only if we're so inclined.

Thanks once again.

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Thank you too!

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Hey, ya wanna go toodling down to the nearest Bass Pro Shop in our new Bass shoes and check out the specials? Wink, Wink. ;)

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You often learn more by asking key questions than by stating opinions. The answers you get back are a clue to the direction in which the narrative is being steered.

https://www.media-ecology.org/What-Is-Media-Ecology

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Without a doubt. I've long admired the "Socratic" approach for that and other reasons. I find it fascinating how few people show any interest in any opinions besides their own. Most don't even want to hear possibly useful info.

I find that a very few well placed questions is often worth more than a ton of assertions.

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"I thought they chose a med student to write it"

How does that work in publishing? I assumed they just sifted through submissions until they found something they could run with, and maybe helped a bit with editing. People do submit unsolicited material, right? It would give you some distance, as in "the views of our editorial writers do not necessarily reflect the position of this publication." Or have I got that wrong?

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When you become prominent you are approached by PR agencies who offer to write articles or opinion pieces for you to publish under your own name. I suspect at least half of all "bylined" publications of "experts" are ghost written by PR agencies hired by political interest groups to give fake credence to their positions. I used to be approached by these people all the time and they often sent me completed editorials, Congressional testimony, or letters ready to be signed and sent. I didn't play the game so they eventually went away.

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This is a really good comment I am going to add to the article.

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Most people have no idea that this is happening. Thank you for this insight.

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Look up Key Opinion Leaders too!

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Thanks, I didn't know the technique had its own name. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-36822-7_12

Many scientific, medical and legal experts do not write in language that is well understood by the public. PR firms play the important role of translating their jargon into comprehensible (but often inaccurate) writing that sways the public. It is part of the "third party technique" propaganda you exposed in an earlier posting.

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For a good overview of the hanky-panky in the pharmaceutical industry, I recommend the book Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre. I think there was an entire chapter about KOLs.

It was published pre-Covid by several years, so things have only accelerated since then.

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And this is something relatively recent in PR - I used to want to work for one of the top firms, and I don't think they were doing this solicitation in the past. I followed the industry for a while & was gifted a free subscription by John Stauber of PR Watch to that publication - but that was then & here we are.

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Have you read Laura Dodsworth's book State of Fear about the SAGE group in the UK? Fors Marsh did that work in the USA. The receipts are here.

https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/9fc60084-0841-d30d-d513-79bcde62e106-C/latest

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That should also have been a red flag for me -"why is a defense contractor handling logistics for vaccine distribution?" But I'd heard Catherine Austin Fitts say lots of Federal work (not just health related) is farmed out to defense contractors, probably because of black budgets, lack of oversight, etc.

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Oh thank you for reminding me of the PR firm's name who worked for defense contractor ANSR on the Warp Speed program! I just couldn't remember it, after learning of it back when I followed David Martin Ph.D. in 2021 (Activate Humanity). Yes, I ordered Laura's book in summer 2021, when I learned the publisher was shipping free to US! I am indebted to Robin Monotti in the UK for learning a lot of the non-approved narrative back in 2020 & early 2021. He helped give Dr Yeadon a platform when the latter was being messed with for his findings.

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Why did I never know that before?

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It is kind of funny in a creepy way. The first big contract came out under the Trump administration. The democrats were in an uproar for about 1 week. They thought it was to blunt their Trump killed everyone with covid campaign strategy. I suspect the DOD told them to shut up because they all stopped at once. Biden admin continued the contracts.

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Great point. Similar things happen with political junk mail for us ordinary folk.

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Came here to share the same thing. Kevin Bass has been a belligerent a**hole for a looooooong time in the diet/nutrition/exercise world. He is deservedly well-hated in that circle.

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OFD - Love your name/title!

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I wrote the following on AMD’s comment on Meryl’s post about this topic:

“Thank you for your writings, AMD, they have been very helpful in unpacking this gobbledy goo.

I have followed his [Kevin’s] Twitter for quite a while since I used to be especially interested in Dean Ornish, Lifestyle Medicine, and “plant-based diets” as advertised by Essenstyn, Campbell, Barnard et al.

His shift was sudden. Hard to know what happened behind the scenes, but I appreciate your thoughtful approach.”

Seeing that comment near the end about ghostwriters makes me think it’s not unlikely that this article was industry-written and then Mr. Bass was chosen to be the author and he agreed because it’s fancy to be published in Newsweek. And maybe he agreed with the content. But it when I first read it, it didn’t sound like him, and now it makes more sense that it was crafted in that strategic kind of way.

Also, he is ongoingly active on Twitter. I don’t see why he wouldn’t debate Steve Kirsch or engage here? It will be interesting to follow.

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While I do like the term "gobbledy goo", accuracy compels me to tell you that the correct term is "gobbledygook"!!

Reminiscent of the substitution of "dribble" for "drivel". Oh, the horror!!

Maybe we can enjoy both! ;)

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This comment made me lol. The thought arose as the sound “gobbledy goo” in my mind. My phone autocorrected to gobbledygook, but I changed it to preserve my apparent neologism.

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There is nothing fancy about being published in Newsweek. Real news seekers gave up on it years ago.

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You would probably enjoy these short letters by T Jefferson who expressed similar sentiments. The one to Norvell is particularly interesting.

"I have so completely withdrawn myself from these spectacles of usurpation & misrule, that I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month; & I feel myself infinitely the happier for it."

-Jefferson letter To Tench Coxe Monticello, May 1, 1794

http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl107.php

"…for I knew nothing of the facts. I read no newspaper now but Ritchie's, and in that chiefly the advertisements, for they contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper." [ ed comment: we all know how much truth is in those! 😉]

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to To Nathaniel Macon, Monticello, January 12, 1819

"I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. "

-Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 14 June 1807

Heck it even applies to medical journals!

Drummond Rennie: deputy editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association:

‘There seems to be no study too fragmented, no hypothesis too trivial, no literature citation too biased or too egotistical, no design too warped, no methodology too bungled, no presentation of results too inaccurate, too obscure, and too contradictory, no analysis too self-serving, no argument too circular, no conclusions too trifling or too unjustified, and no grammar and syntax too offensive for a paper to end up in print.’

Why most published research findings are false. Ioannidis JPA.PLoS Med. 2005;2:e124. doi: 10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar]

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The latter is what you get in a "publish or perish" world.

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Thank you, will have a look. Love the comments! I feel that way about ,much "news" at he moment!

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Quick question, do you agree with the addition I put at the article about you and this comment?

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That's a great point; he needs to debate him!!!

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"His shift was sudden."

At least they're consistent!

What I mean is that the type switches messages like a liar changes stories so their shiftyness is a good clue that they're looking for a way to get what they want dishonestly (is there any other way for them?).

I'm always amazed at the twists and turns of FDR's constantly varying "New Deals" or Stalin's multiple 5 Year Plans and NEPs (New Economic Policies) or our bankers' and industrialists' funding of both Communism and Fascism, then their apparent antagonsim to those useful idiot fakosophies. One minute petroleum is all the rage, then nuclear power is, next minute they're both our doom; today eggs are suddenly bad, tomorrow they're healthy etc., etc.

One minute covid is gonna exterminate us all and the jabs are our only salvation. Now it's in fashion to bash the mess.

The sudden shifts can be relied upon to suggest that the first thing in fashion was a fraud.

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He's a nobody but likely has big bucks behind him. If his titles (MD, Qrs, XYz, etc) have not been purchased, (philanthropy, ya know), and his "authority" embellished and promoted, bring some salt cuz I'll eat my socks.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Bass family owns Newsweek or at least has a ton of influence.

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As noted above (“ Bass has long been a power serving sycophant — now deployed as an operative of some kind.”), I also noticed that a few years ago in regards to Bass and his fallacious attacks against low-carb advocates. The rulers of Corporate $¢I€N¢€ need to replenish their ranks with new lieutenants to replace those currently being sacrificed.

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Anyone who believes in eating lots of processed carbs really does not understand nutrition.

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Or his daddy owns or controls a junk food processing conglomerate.

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"Bass has long been a power serving sycophant — now deployed as an operative of some kind."

I looked up the name and I believe it may explain why your comment is probably correct. Check it out. Big money family name. I doubt he's some distant relative of the clan.

https://www.forbes.com/profile/bass/

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His new substack was launched last month, about the same time as the Newsweek opinion piece. Surprise surprise, he's going to be selling advice on diet, nutrition, supplements, and pharmaceuticals.

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Fantastic catch. Thanks for that. SMDH.

I was never one to take supplements because there's no real way to know what goes into that stuff. Usually those promoting it strike me as questionable too and this reinforces the notion. Another quack pushing garbage we don't need that could possibly (Likely) be harmless.

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In 2017 I received a Tdap booster during my last week of work as an RN before going to grad school for Nurse Anesthesia. One week after the injection, I developed an intense neuropathy down my arm. I remember thinking that my arm felt as if it were on fire. Since I did not have health insurance (I had just left my job) I basically had to tough it out for a month before I could get the diagnosis of cubital tunnel syndrome. The doctor who evaluated me said, "These are things that just happen as we get older." I was 26 years old at the time. After a complete overhaul of my lifestyle habits with better diet, exercise, alcohol cessation, and curiosity in how to get better, I have regained function of my arm but still have muscle wasting in my hand and forearm that I have not been able to regain.

The reason I am writing this is because I did not even know that a vaccine could have caused this kind of reaction until 2020 when I began a deep dive into vaccines during the hysteria. It was deeply ingrained in my training as an RN that vaccines were one of medicine's greatest accomplishments. It was how we eliminated deadly diseases like smallpox! Adverse reactions were exceedingly rare. It is this indoctrination of medical professionals and consequently the public that allowed these horrendous few years to happen.

I believe the adverse reactions are much higher than are being reported. I know several people in the medical field who appear to have had vaccine injuries, but are in denial or completely unaware that their health issues could have been caused by the C19 injections. This is what is particularly insidious about mandates, it's the abrogation of informed consent. If people were shown the nine pages of possible side effects shown on PHMPT, how many would voluntarily sign up?

Thank you for writing this substack, I recently discovered you and really appreciate what you're doing here. Godspeed.

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This is actually a somewhat common complication from vaccines and easy to comprehend (as the inflammation spreads locally from the site of infection) so I am a bit surprised no one was able to link the two.

Oddly enough one of my patients went in to get the vaccine, read the form they gave you (which was limited since it was an EUA), said this is not good and then didn't get it.

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"It was deeply ingrained in my training as an RN that vaccines were one of medicine's greatest accomplishments". Your statement sums up everything that is wrong with todays allopathic medicine. When your industry is Pharma's bitch you dont get real medicine taught.

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I had numerous teachers tell me that at the very start of medical school.

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Thanks for the confirmation that Pharma has been doing this for a very long time. Its why I discontinued my allopathic training many years ago and moved to holistic medical training and practice. The Human(e) was taken out of medicine a long time ago. The Cartesian lack of trust in the ability of the body mind and spirit to address life's ills, traumas and challenges is deeply imbeded in the messes we see today. Of course greed and playing god doesn't help.

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Allopathic medicine is one of the only medical systems in existence that does not awknowledge the self healing capacity of the body or the existence of spirit.

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I was so shocked by your comment that I decided to go look up allopathic medicine. I am sort of in this weird state of confusion and realization. It might partially explain why my doctor and the doctor of my friend who has cancer (I go to the doctor with her sometimes) get so impatient with me.

A funny interaction b/w doc and my mom (who had endstage brain cancer and died a while back):

Doc: You need to be on antidepressants.

Mom: Antidepressants? (laughs) Who the hell wouldn't be depressed if they were told they have about 3 months to live? That's normal. You are a fool.

Doc: Well, we are done then.

Mom: Yes.

Sidenote: For about a month after that she would tell anyone who asked her to do anything health related (like weigh, take BP, not eat cake) "I'm dying. Shove it". I cringed at the time, but now it seems pretty good.

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I've done something similar.

Last time I went in for my insurance required annual exam, the first question I was asked was, "Are you depressed?" And suspecting what that was all about ( no doubt a sales pitch for some poison) which annoyed me badly, and, because I can be a bit of a smart arse on occasion, I responded, "If you ain't depressed, you ain't been paying attention!"

The shocked look was priceless and worth the visit.

Also, having just read Kendrick's stuff about cholesterol and statins, I shocked the doc again when I said I wouldn't take 'em, especially at my age and no history of atherosclerotic vascular disease in me or my extended family at all and that furthermore I'd found a study that claimed that people with so called "high cholesterol" tend to be less susceptible to certain infections and may even live longer! Not that I'm particularly impressed with that because I'd rather live better than longer if it were up to me.

So anyway, being of somewhat sound mind and armed with Kendrick's ideas regarding hypertension, I patiently endured the sales spiel then politely and calmly declined those poisons too.

I had an aunt who passed away at a nearly 101 of basically old age and at the end she wound up in the hospital. One of her daughters called to see if she could visit, and my aunt's reply was, 'Well, you better hurry the hell up cuz I'm not planning on sticking around forever."

Anyway, I'm nowhere near being depressed (despite paying close attention), and I share your mother's and my aunt's sentiments!

Bravo!

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'Well we are done". True: if you won't take medicine why would you go to a medical doctor. ? My mom was having side effects from her zocor. I asked if she could stop taking it. doc said it prevents a stroke. Me: she's already had a stroke. doc: it prevents cervical cancer. Me : she doesn't have a cervix. doc: It prevents prostate cancer. SMH Me: doesn't have a prostate either. doc: (Turning his back) : I want her ON it. Time for a new doctor.

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More power to your mom on both planes of existence.

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A good start is to watch James Corbett at The Corbett report. Start with , Rockefeller Medicine.

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Precisely because it was hijacked by the Rockafellers, (and gang) natural remedies people knew and used, faded, petroleum. based pharma came in, and we became entranced with 'medical progress' while becoming disconnected from our own bodies, handing over authority to someone else. A very sad story and greed and propaganda are in the mix, but the agenda behind these things (debt based financial system another example) is deeper than all that and it is intentional. TPTWB serve an anti-human agenda. (And, sorry NOT a vaccine - that's is their game.)

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Fine comment. Deserves many more likes.

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Ain’t it the truth. I’m encouraged to hear this logical progression of leaving allopathic and moving on to holistic.

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“1913 wasn’t a very good year. 1913 gave us the Federal Reserve System, the Income Tax, the 16th Amendment, and the IRS.” ~ Ron Paul

**Also, and relevant to this discussion** –– the 1913 creation of The Rockefeller Foundation, leading to the complete takeover of all medical education and research, and the denigration of all other forms of 'traditional medicine'. (said family were also deeply enmeshed in the deceitful creation of 'The Fed' nothing fishy about that! )

COINCIDENCE? No, it is all interconnected in a larger web of lies and deceit.

Ponder the deeper implications of this astute overview of the Big Pharma Industrial Complex: "A patient cured is a customer lost" ~ Dr. Robert Bob Beck

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Bob Beck dug up a few forgotten medical discoveries which have been invaluable for the world (although most of them are still relatively unknown).

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Brilliant. Great points. Thanks!

13...huh? Hmmmm....

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13 is actually a good number, a lucky number in China I gather. 13 is a sexy prime number for starters (look it up on Wikipedia, rather fascinating).

12 is the problem and believe it or not, why it is 12 Grimmauld Place is that number. As to whether JK Rowling realised this I wouldn't know. There are other reasons too, I will do a post one day.

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8 is certainly a lucky number in Asia, and I know that 13 is associated with death in some countries there, but I do not know about China specifically.

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He overlooked the 17th Amendment was also "ratified" that year?

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I'm not certain of historical issue with 17th Amendment, however I am very clear on 16th -

which DID NOT have the required 3/4 majority, but thanks to fraudulent/seditious/treasonous vote count, here were are.....

"I think if you were to go back and try to find and review the ratification of the 16th amendment, which was the internal revenue, the ‘income tax’, I think if you went back and examined that carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of States never ratified that amendment."

U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox, Sullivan vs. United States, 2003.

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Utah and 2 or 3 other States have not ratified the "17th". Since it deprives State Legislatures of their representation in the Senate, ratification must be unanimous. The United States Senate does not exist; just upper and lower Houses of Representatives.

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The first thing that everyone should learn during the "education" process is that (no matter the field of study) is that whatever they are being taught includes a bunch of nonsense that needs to be ignored and put aside (then they need to start thinking about why this nonsense is being taught to them).

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They call it education, but it'sreally indoctrination. I have proof if anyone's interested.

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First day of Med School:

“A patient cured is a customer lost”

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I agree wholeheartedly, I was just naive at the time (like most "healthcare" professionals) and had to learn the hard way. Unfortunately this is the case for a lot of people - they have to have a health issue before they care to learn about health. People tend to be loss averse and don't care about health until they start losing it.

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We've all been there. I still know nothing but at least I'm aware of the fact.

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I had a CCU nurse colleague who has permanent neurological disabilities from a flu vaccine she got years ago. So I stopped getting flu vaccines. The push-back I got from some of my doctors was pretty annoying. (Especially since I don't even remember the last time I had the flu.) The worst was an 8-10 minute lecture about people who don't wear seat belts because they know someone who survived an accident because they didn't wear a seatbelt. I wanted to ask "And that's relevant to my flu vaccine choice how?" But I instead changed my primary to a nurse practitioner who listens to me instead of lecturing at me. Now all my providers offer the flu vaccine (like they're required to) but don't say a word when I turn it down. Same with the COVID shot. They knew where I stood on all new drugs and vaccines. I wait several years to see if there are any significant problems with any of them. An EUA vaccine? Not a chance.

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Thank you, Obsequious, but I could not tell you to how many people I have sent that "post-marketing' report from PHMPT, with its nine-pages of 'adverse events' (including death...) and who decided to get injected ANYWAY because of coercion and bullying by their employers or fellow employees! I am practically an outcast because I saw through this whole plandemic from day one and urged people to READ the real science and avoid lining up for a bioweapon injection....we tried to tell them. Over & over again. And I am a scientist but they chose to buckle under pressure. Stay strong, colleagues.

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The saddest example I saw were liberal people who strongly opposed childhood vaccinations because they had family members or patients they knew were severely injured by them and just had been gaslighted for decades over what happened...who then started masking and got the COVID vaccines and now admit they are COVID vaccine injured and regretted getting them.

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This is one of the things I noticed in my very liberal community: the die-hard hippies and the moms who were always cautious about vaccination schedules blindly went along. I saw that as alarming and I think it was political desperation to not be seen as a trump supporter or Republican. Absolutely crazy.

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Yup. I knew this wasn't going to happen but it was still amazing to watch.

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Crazy too because it seems Trump supported the vaxxes. One has to be seriously unhinged to get something your enemy says you should.

"I hate Trump. Trump loves the vax! I will get the vax!"

Huh??? Stupid 20 at work I fear.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/01/08/stupid-20/

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/05/11/100-up-and-stupid-20-variants/

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I Dunno, the same happened in other countries where the population didn't know and/or care who Trump or the Republican Party were. Besides, the clot-shots were developed under Trump's Republican administration (he brags about it to this day).

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He has to distance himself from them or he can't be re-elected.

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Problem with narcissism; can't admit error so he's willing to double down on the "Safe & Effective" lie even though it's still killing God knows how many of his most ardent followers.

The laughable attacks on DeSantis center on "disloyalty" to Trump; how DeSantis owes him. Very revealing. Should be about loyalty to the USA, what's best for us, not Trump. Loyalty is a 1-way street for him. Ask the unarmed Jan 6 "insurrectionists"; and Julian Assange, without whose wikileaks dumps Trump would not have been president.

Now the attacks include DeSantis's covid record. Still more laughable given his choice of Joseph Ladapo as Surgeon Gen & getting a grand jury to investigate vaccine fraud. Also given DeSantis's brief lockdown was based on Trump admin recommendations & pressure.

https://twitter.com/CarlosPerdue22/status/1621927782300397568

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and that's what is so crazy. If Trump were still president all of these whack jobs that have been hysterically pushing these "vaccines" would have been hysterically AGAINST them. Just proves it was never about science.

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I am in the UK and it tends to be the liberal left loonies who like the vaccines more than anybody as far as I can tell.

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I might be called a liberal left loonie by some, and I lost confidence in the US health authorities after seeing Pierre Kory''s testimony at Ron Johnson's committee hearing in late 2020, and the increasingly mendacious pushback from the Pharma Front that ate the Democratic Party (and a lot of the other party too).

I now believe that any video taken down by YouTube stands a fair chance of being worth finding somewhere else and at least looking at.

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Trump Derangement Syndrome at its finest!

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Most hippies have habitually smoked the egregore drug marijuana. Strong social pressure to do so.

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YES! I'm in a crunchy moms group made up of anti-vax, anti-circumcision, raw milk types and I was astonished at how many of them went right along with this Covid nonsense. I saw it then as a reactionary performance to avoid being identified in any way as a conservative. How foolish.

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As a life lobg progressive with vaxx injured kids NOTHING , including being gaslit as a Trumper coukd silence me.

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I'm really sorry about your children, but I'm very glad that you won't silence your voice!

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That’s just bonkers! My daughter has two friends in med school, both got jabbed. My kid tried her best to convince them otherwise. The one bawled while getting injected. The other is boosted thrice. Observing how they deal with this is horrific/fascinating. Now my daughter may have ended her future in Neuroscience but she is healthy and survived the psyop…I thank God for this every day.

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In fairness, most medical students had no options for declining to vaccinate.

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They did have an option, but caved to the blackmail. These abused students were raped. God help the administrators who exchanged integrity for a few pieces of silver. What vile people.

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Do you know what has happened to medical school students who refused the shots? I assume they had to take leave from school, and if they didn't find some other course of study, their student loans kicked in at an unpayable rate, destroying them financially?

As some are saying, they have a choice, but that's a pretty poor choice.

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Again better then being injured or killed. Literally. I know. My kids are vaxx injured

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Most of them had 2 feet and a pair of legs, didn't they?

Luckily, an eminently qualified nephew, who would have made a top notch neurosurgeon, was refused entrance to med skool while some pretty pathetic specimens were granted places. I praise G for that every day. He would've told 'em where to stick the jab before taking a hike.

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Good for him.....bravery trumps all the rest!

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Better to be denied a medical and religious exemption and be refused and terminated ( maybe a good lawsuit later despite the delay in ones career & life ) than to be injured or die.

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Agreed. I'd take it one step further: submitting any exemption abdicates ones sovereignty and puts one in the position of supplicant. Don't do it.

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I think this was an issue, but I don't think it was the primary issue and I don't want to focus on it because it allows the government and vaccine manufacturers to pass the blame to the rank and file.

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The story from the medical industry that the injection stays in the muscle was silly from the start. Even injections that are intended to stay in the muscle don't. Injections such as steroids affect the whole body. If the mRNA injection did stay only in the muscle how would it have affected the rest of the body.

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