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Another great article!

For several years I taught "History Ethics and Legal Perspectives of Anesthesia". It was a Master's Level class for Nurse Anesthesia Students enrolled in a Master's Course. My teaching credentials included Degrees in Law, Anesthesia and Nursing along with 20 plus years administering Anesthesia and I was working with more than one Law Firm as both an Anesthesia Expert and a Lawyer in Mal-Practice Cases, defending Physicians.

This article gives a good analysis of the problems with an approach to Medical Ethics based upon just knowing enough to pass a Medical Board Exam and obtain a License to Practice Medicine.

I can also vouch for the approach/problems in the way someone with a Masters In Public Health (MPH) views the CDC and believes Vaccines are necessary to stop a contagious disease and achieve herd immunity in the population.

Both the level of Medical Ethics taught and the opinions it seems are ingrained into MPH graduates are tottering on the edge of a "falsehood abyss" as can be seen from this Sub Stack article.

First a word about those who have a MPH Degree: I have a friend who has two Master's Degrees; one in theology and an MPH. Early on after C-19 Vaccines were available he asked me if I had been vaccinated and I replied that I had not. He asked why and I responded that I had experience in the Phase 1 Human Trials before Vaccines were approved by the CDC and the Covid Vaccines were still in Phase II trials and the benefits and risks associated with them, especially long term risks in humans, were not known.

He proceeded to tell me that his MPH Degree gave him the knowledge to tell me it was my duty to get vaccinated for Covid as soon as I could get to a vaccination center. I asked him why, expecting at least a quasi-scientific explanation. Instead I was told that the CDC were experts and we had a duty to do what they said!

I asked him how many classes in Pharmacology he was required to take to get his MPH? He just looked at me. (silence equaled "none"). I asked him how many days he had spent caring for patients, in isolation who were diagnosed and being treated in a hospital for a communicable disease in his MPH training? Again silence (none). I asked him how many class periods in his MPH schooling was devoted to communicable disease identification, process and treatment? You guessed it, none, just silence.

He knew that a doorknob that had germs on it was called a "fomite," a potential source of a bacteria, fungus or virus that could cause disease, but he had no education or background that would really give him any basis except his belief that the CDC was "the expert source" for when to get vaccinated. He had the theoretical knowledge the MPH Degree had given him, but he had no real knowledge, or had forgotten any he had learned, that gave a reasonable basis to take a vaccine that was still in Phase II testing and was for a disease with a 99.997% survival rate for those under 78 years of age unless they had some 4 or more medical morbidities. There was a excellent basis for anyone with knowledge in medically related fields to dismiss his opinion.

I especially appreciate the story of Dr. Rethy and the two teenage children she vaccinated for Covid.

Obviously her degree in medicine and her residency training would give her ample knowledge in pharmacology, disease process and care of a patient in isolation who had a communicable disease. Yet in spite of all this she committed at least 3 crimes, twice in the same day in the "treatment" of 14 and 16 year old siblings. There is no Medical or Legal excuse for that kind of behavior by a so called "professional."

The three crimes Dr. Rethy committed in her treatment of each sibling were laid out in the Sub Stack article; Battery, False imprisonment and Fraud. I also believe she committed a fourth crime, this one against the sibling's mother; removing the parental right of having the final say as to the treatment of her minor children. This is bad enough, however Dr. Rethy also committed an International Felony by not giving the mother the required risk benefit analysis so the mother could give "informed consent" or refuse her children to be vaccinated under the Nuremberg Code: which for an experimental, i.e. not approved by the CDC vaccine, only available under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) must legally include the following:

"This is an experimental drug, it is still in the phases of human testing prior to either being approved or not approved by the CDC. Since it is still in Phase II testing, which is the first long term testing phase I can not give you a risk benefit analysis because we do not know what long term effects or problems this or any other Covid-19 Vaccine might cause. A person could die as a result of taking this vaccine. No one can force you to take this vaccine, the choice is yours (or in the case of minor children, the choice is their parents.)"

After giving this basic analysis which is necessary for the obtaining of "informed consent" the parent or the patient, if a legal adult, must sign and date a consent form that includes the same basic

language as in the above paragraph plus a statement to the effect of consenting to receive the vaccine. Then the Physician must also sign and date the form. It can not be signed by an office nurse or secretary and the consent must be obtained, under the Nuremberg Code, by the Health Care Provider who holds a license as Physician, Physician's Assistant or Advanced Practice Nurse, i.e. Nurse Practitioner. Failure to do this, according to the Nuremberg Code is a very specific crime; "Crimes Against Humanity."

So when we add in the Nuremberg code which happens to be part of U.S. Law we have not just 6 crimes, but 9 total Crimes committed by the good Dr. Rethy. There were at least three total victims mentioned in the Sub Stack; a mother and 2 minor children.

Now, some may claim Dr. Rethy was ignorant of the Nuremberg Code, however, in this country, every Law Student knows that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" as do many other people.

Then I need to point out that Mal-Practice is a Civil Offense where if convicted, Dr. Rethy's Mal-Practice Insurance Company would have to pay money damages. As was so correctly pointed out in the Sub Stack article, these actions of Dr. Rethy's was not Mal-Practice, but were Crimes.

Now since Criminal Law is different than Civil Law and since the penalty for being convicted of Crimes is loss of freedom, instead of a monetary loss, or if the crimes are severe enough, the loss the criminal faces is loss of life, that brings up another issue.

Mal-Practice insurance does not cover crimes. Mal-Practice Attorneys are not Criminal Attorneys, and are, frankly, incompetent to defend a Doctor who is being tried for crimes. That doctor will have to pay for his/her own Defense Attorney out of their own pocket. The Mal-Practice Insurance Company does not pay for Criminal Defense Attorneys. Remember, I am a Lawyer who worked with Mal-Practice Firms defending Physicians for several years.

Now, sadly, Dr. Rethy is not the only Physician in this country who is in this same position, there are hundreds, maybe thousands more in the same position.

I helped defend Physicians for years. We had a very excellent record at being successful defending Physicians. So for my two cents worth, the fault for Physicians not understanding what they face lies right in the lap of the Medical Schools and continuing Medical Education.

There is a hole in the preparation of Medical Students that includes a complete ethics foundation which would have, in my opinion, avoided this problem many Physicians can find themselves facing.

The solution, revise the way Medical Students are taught.

I believe that in the next few years, not only will there be a lot of Physicians who could be in Criminal legal trouble, but if the Medical Profession does not revise the way Physicians are taught and trained, it may be never that the Medical Profession regains the lost Professional Status that the response to Covid-19 has cost them.

We will all be better off if the Medical Profession learns what they need to know and understand now.

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Carolin's avatar

One of the scariest things of the last 3 years is seeing people that I previously thought were critical thinkers mindlessly parrot the lasting talking points from tv that to any logical thinking person makes no sense (e.g. "the unvaccinated are responsible for the covid infections of the vaccinated")

I have thought long about why I did not get vaccinated/trust the whole covid narrative after the vaccines came out and have come to the following conclusions:

-I had already lost trust in the mainstream-media and politicians long before

-I have an exceptionally good memory (I frequently get comments on that from family/friends and especially colleagues), so I could remember the changes to the story

-I do not go to church, but I believe in God and am a spiritual person. It is my observation that religious people did not succumb to the story to the same extent as nonreligious

-I am a logically thinking person (I studied Mathematics in college. It is my observation both from Germany and the US that so-called "nerds" were skeptical a lot sooner, because the numbers just did not add up. There was a person in Germany (Marcel Barz) who became famous in alternative media, who at first believed the narrative, but then became a skeptic, when he tried to prove that there was a pandemic to his skeptical friend, but the official numbers just did not indicate a pandemic, since Germany had BELOW AVERAGE mortality in 2020)

-My specialty in college was "Modelling and Scientific Computing", so I was deeply skeptical of the modelling of the case-counts, since I knew, that one could basically produce ANY result by tweaking a few parameters. I especially got suspicious, since the case-modellings did not improve over time, which would have gotten me into a lot of trouble if I had done the same work in my job.

-I want to get to the bottom of things and therefore try to inform myself

-and the last and I think one of the most important things: I do not crave social approval. It is my observation that a large segment of the population can be made to express the most ridiculous things, if they think, that this is the only "socially approved" talking points These people spend a large amount of their time reading the most important newspaper/watch the most important news-segment not in order to get informed but in order to know what the current socially approved attitude is. This is IMO especially prevalent with college-educated people, since a lot of them have a high status they want to preserve in any case. A youtuber I used to watch regularly used to call these people "cold-blooded-animals", not because they were heartless, but because they need validation from other people instead of getting it out of themselves like "warm-blooded-animals"

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