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Danbob's avatar

I really connect with this post on so many levels. For way too long, we’ve been misled by people we trusted to give us accurate information. Now, with so much changing around us, it’s more important than ever to look closely not just at the usual sources, but also at those who seem to be on our side—because sadly, some are more interested in their own gain than truly caring for patients.

When patients have been abused, it’s totally understandable to want to believe in someone offering a miracle. But that leaves a dangerous gap that’s easy for quick-fix promises to fill. What patients really need is straightforward, honest information and open conversations.

As doctors, our main job is to teach and guide—not to lead people down the wrong path. There’s no one cure for any illness, and anyone saying otherwise is probably trying to sell you something. Take the COVID vaccine, for example—it’s not a magic fix for COVID. Or chemotherapy for cancer, or bisphosphonates for osteoporosis—these things are more complicated than that.

From my experience working in complementary cancer care, I’ve seen that some well-known people pushing single treatments and sharing their results aren’t always telling the whole story. We’re putting too much trust in treatments we don’t fully understand yet. Drugs like Ivermectin and Mebendazole/Fenbendazole might offer hope for cancer, but they’re not a one-size-fits-all answer. I’ve seen amazing results with low doses, and also no effect even at high doses that are almost toxic. Traditional treatments show the same ups and downs.

What have I seen in cancer with ivermectin and benzimidazoles? They essentially put a temporary pause on cancer, so the patient can correct the underlying issues required for a potential resolution. If we thought about it in this manner, patients could make rational, appropriate, judgment-based decisions rather than the standard rushed slash/burn/poison choices.

I’m also familiar with a case that’s been wildly misrepresented on social media, and honestly, it’s a travesty. The results that were publicized just don’t match what actually happened. Because of this, I now have patients reaching out to me every day, hoping to get these medications for prevention. The truth is, cancer management takes a lot more than a magic pill or two. The terrain has to be corrected before the medications can make a dent. Can anyone provide a first-hand account of someone taking just ivermectin or fenbendazole/mebendazole and achieving remission? If so, let’s write it up in a case study and expand on the factors that led to that outcome. Then, let’s do it again, and again, until we know exactly what we are doing, so we can end this scourge on humanity.

We don’t help ourselves or our patients by swapping one rigid approach for another. Just like we question the harsh “slash, burn, poison” methods, we need to look carefully at new treatments, no matter how promising they seem.

Right now, we need clear, balanced info from people with a platform—people who share both the wins and the limits of new treatments. If something works, we need honest stories and open, thoughtful talks to figure out how and when it helps most. And if it doesn’t work, we should be just as open about what might have gone wrong.

Science is all about reproducibility—meaning others can follow the same steps and see if they get the same results. For example, Justus Hope’s work is laid out clearly so others can follow along and check if they get similar outcomes. This kind of openness is so important. If someone isn’t showing you their process or explaining how they got their results, it’s fair to ask, “Why not?” Being transparent and letting others replicate results is what separates real progress from empty promises.

We’re also living in a time when anyone who challenges the usual ideas can quickly get a platform—and sadly, these platforms often come with good paychecks. Cancer patients are desperate, and rightly so, but everyone deserves honest, reliable info. That responsibility falls heaviest on those patients trust with their lives.

There are no guarantees with any cancer treatment (though we’re getting closer every day!), and anyone who says otherwise is probably selling you something. Ivermectin, Mebendazole, and Fenbendazole might not promise a cure, but they can give you a fighting chance. If you decide to try these, do it safely and with someone who truly has your best interests at heart. And don’t put all your hope in just one or two so-called miracle drugs.

I’m strongly against anyone saying that high doses of any substance will cure cancer. Those claims usually come from people looking to make money, not from genuine care. Cancer is incredibly complex, and no single treatment can fix everything. The successes I’ve seen come from patients’ determination, using multiple meds and supplements, and ideas we’re still learning about.

Unfortunately, we now see companies and personalities marketing these treatments before we really understand them. What if using high doses causes cancer to become resistant or changes its genetics in a way that ruins a rare chance for a cure?

I’m not telling you not to do what feels right for your health. But we all need to take a step back and really think about the info we’re getting. Ask yourself, “What does this person or company stand to gain by sharing this?”

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Stephanie S's avatar

There is no one size fits all in pantyhose or medical treatments; we are all indeed, fearfully and wonderfully made.

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Thank you AMD, these things are sent to try us!

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Edward Chastka's avatar

I have never had cancer, but I find Ivermectin with Fenbendazole gives excellent relief from my arthritic pain. I was originally told by my rheumatologist that she thought I had psoriatic arthritis, although now she thinks it is osteoarthritis. I read elsewhere that Ivermectin might do this by itself. DMSO works well too, but my wife can't stand how I smell so I use it sparingly. Chlorine dioxide also works, ozone therapy not so much.

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sunreader's avatar

Take a spoonful of raw honey with the dmso and there will be no smell.

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Edward Chastka's avatar

Thanks for the suggestion. I will glive it a try, but there goes my keto diet.

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Dr Gervais Harry's avatar

thanks. I will try that

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Ande's avatar

I relate to your DMSO smell issue, I have now got my husband onto it for various aches one reason is it works, but the second is now he can’t smell me😝, my motives were pure! I also am on a keto diet so eat differently from him, so he also now gets garlic in his meals so he can’t smell that either 😉 whether it goes or not.

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Chaz's avatar

i've also often heard of a wild plant by the name of Nettles to be helpful to people with arthritis. Anyone else heard this? i just wonder, what is the treatment method beyond touching the stinging leaf to the painful area?

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Margo's avatar

I grew nettles as I have rheumatoid arthritis. I would cook them, delicious but would use them to sting myself where I was in pain. It provides the capillaries to open up and provide more blood flow to the area. I no longer do this as I moved. Now I am hoping DMSO offers me hope & help. My husband is very tolerant of the smell. Fingers crossed!

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Miimii's avatar

If you have a low grade infection elsewhere in your body, that might be triggering the arthritis. Infected teeth, gingivitis, old root canals, IUDs in women, etc. Another major triggering source of inflammation is glyphosate is conventional wheat and oats (organic is fine).

We solved autoimmune conditions in our family, including psoriatic arthritis, scalp psoriasis, irritable colon, by figuring out the above.

The night pain was unbearable and the sleep deprivation was so awful!

I hope this helps!

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Edward Chastka's avatar

Thanks for the advice. I went organic and gluten free several years ago and it helped my digestion and sinuses but not the arthritis. I had my worst root canaled tooth pulled but I have two more to go. Gingivitis and tooth problems responded well to DMSO with chlorine dioxide. I recently started using ozonated glycerin on my teeth and that seems to work well too, and tastes a lot better than DMSO.

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Tom Barry's avatar

What is DMSO

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Michelle Boivin's avatar

The sad part is that we might have known about many effective "off-label" treatments for cancer decades ago, if only a) the funding was available for doing large scale studies of drugs/herbs that can't be patented, and b) research journals had not been bought out by large chemical/pharmaceutical companies starting in the 1980's. The latter has ultimately led to journals censoring good research papers while promoting papers with conflicts of interest (some of them fraudulent) that benefit Big Pharma.

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Abnormal cells are produced daily at the cellular level in humans and other animals. A basic function of the immune system that is whole and vibrant is to destroy the mal formed cells via T cell action. It works as long as the immune system is up to the task. When we introduce a massive number of mRNA molecules that reprogram cellular function into the body under the pretext that we will stimulate immune system response, but in turn produces a massive increase in abnormal cells we create a turbo cancer event if the immune system is not up to the task.

My wife since childhood struggled with a poor immune system primarily because she was deficient in Vitamin D. Warned since childhood she was susceptible to sun stroke. She acquired SV40 from the live Salk vaccine and then acquired lymphoma. The combination was overwhelming and shortened her life. If we would do research studies that included measuring blood value of the active form of Vitamin D which in reality is a hormone that regulates about three thousand gene expressions, we will then document a correlation between low D and disease states. It is up to NIH and RFK Jr. to commission this type of study. Harvard did the 5 year 30 Million VITAL study that would have been greatly relevant if they had included measuring blood value of D. Instead, they underdosed Vitamin D and results were marginal as intended. Big Pharma continually looks for ways to discredit the true value of D because it negatively impacts the sale of their prescription drugs. Same is true with the Covid con. If we measured blood value of D and ability to survive the covid, we would see a strong correlation. There are two websites that are champions for educating about Vitamin D. www.grassrootshealth.net and www.vitamindwiki.com. I in turn have been writing about the true value of D over that last 15 years because of the dark spot in medicine. thomasabraunrph@substack.com My view based on years of research.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

You are being targeted for telling the truth?

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Just_Henry's avatar

https://fenbendazole.substack.com

Three of these Case Reports are coming out in a peer-reviewed oncology journal😳

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Danbob's avatar

Thank you! This is fantastic. There are currently 2 trials investigating Mebendazole and pediatric brain tumors. So the higher ups suspect what we are seeing on the ground. With benzimidazoles I am personally aware of 3 miraculous cases of complete resolution (we corrected one's lingering vision problem overnight with DMSO).

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sunreader's avatar

It's very refreshing to see a doctor that is open to Integrative care. There have been many successes with conventional medicine combined with natural cures. The supplements help to direct the chemo or radiation into the cells and keep the patient from suffering side effects while building the immune system. There are incredible people doing this not for profit. I will try to link.

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Danbob's avatar

Agreed. I have seen a few miracles: stage IV NSCLC resolve inside 4 months, GBM in 3 cases, in similar time frame, and recently an astounding finding in my sister that can only be explained by the MOA of DMSO+IVM. I've worked hard to replicate these results in others, but I do not see the pattern. The NSCLC was the most puzzling b/c it was when I first started and used very low doses.

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Pam's avatar

Would you mind sharing what you did with the GBM cases that you believe contributed to remission?

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Danbob's avatar

A positive attitude, faith in God, dedication, strict diet, avoidance of as many toxins as possible, IVM, MBZ, Metformin, Vitamin D3+K2, Melatonin, Doxy+vitamin C, rigorous KMT with fasting and precision exercise.

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Dr Gervais Harry's avatar

Tell you what, DanBob: don’t forget to give your patients the benefit of hormone balancing – check the neurosteroid and T3 serum levels and recommend supplementation as necessary – this, particularly with DHEA, which actively promotes TP53 action ………… please see my optimistically labelled post, “DHEA prevents cancer”, at https://gervaisharry.substack.com/p/dhea-prevents-cancer (I hope you don’t mind my, amateurish graphics (!).

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Danbob's avatar

Is DHEA the neurosteroid? There are endless interventions and tests I can do for patients, however I have to limit what I do based on the short amount of time I get with them. 3 hours per visit and most of that is covering the fundamentals. It takes an army!

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Elizabeth A's avatar

Follow BenFen on this platform for possible case study participants

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Dr Gervais Harry's avatar

thanks for your note, DanBob: it struck a chord with me, particularly because a relative of my wife’s, age 54 and amazingly fit and healthy under normal circumstances, is currently trying to deal with a signet ring cancer of the appendix, which has already produced miliary peritoneal secondaries and is so invasive that both her ureters are being compressed by tumour. She started on a 5 FU protocol 2 weeks ago and is complying with my suggestion that she take DMSO, DHEA, fenbendazole, pregnenolone and PEA – we are in Canada have a problem however, because it is impossible to get ivermectin here. She plans to see someone in Tennessee soon, with the idea of accessing ivermectin. Have you any helpful ideas? – If you do, please email me at cbhrt@gmx.com (gmx is double- encrypted, and secure).

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Danbob's avatar

Dude no way!!!!! How could I be so lucky! Did you know I'm a Nigerian Prince??? If you mail me a check for 5K I'll send you one worth 17k!!!

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I am having to go through all of these and notify the person. They edited the comments after posting them to bypass the email notifications for it being a scam.

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Danbob's avatar

Hmmm. Has this ever happened before?

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

No. First time I've ever had targeted bot harassment on here. I wonder why...

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Edward Chastka's avatar

You must be getting dangerous to them, whoever they are.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

Quick article correction. The man I knew who had a lipoma turn into a severe cancer was almost 30 not, 21. I had put a footnote in while writing this to check on this and forgot to when it was sent out. I sincerely apologize for this.

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Valerie's avatar

This was my biggest takeaway from this article, the fact that lipomas can turn into cancer. I had no idea. As an orthopedic massage therapist, I run into lipomas constantly.... is there a time when I should let a client know that it’s time to get one checked out? I always let a client know if they have a mole that looks unusual, I just suggest they have a doctor look at it. Should I be doing the same for lipomas? If so, what changes would be significant?

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Michelle Boivin's avatar

I would suggest you tell them to have a doctor look at it any time you find a lipoma which seems to be tethered down to the tissues around it, or if you feel any hard nodules/lumps inside of the lipoma. Normally a lipoma is smooth and you can easily move it around under the skin. It's rare for lipomas to turn into cancer, but they can, and with the onset of these mRNA jabs, it might start happening more often.

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Valerie's avatar

Thanks! I feel them allll the time so I know what the normal feel is. I’ll keep my eyes open (or fingers, as it were) for a feeling of more attachment or hard spots. Generally they aren’t painful, is it telling if one is painful?

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Michelle Boivin's avatar

Not necessarily, as cancerous lesions often aren't painful in the early stages. I think your judgement sounds good, and anything that you notice out of the ordinary when you come across a lipoma (including pain) is worth a referral to a doctor. Your patients are lucky you are so conscientious!

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Valerie's avatar

Well thanks! My theory is that I’m the only one that probably ever looks at their back or the back of their legs, so if not me that says something, would they ever notice? I’m just going to add this one to the list.

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Gilgamech's avatar

You are so much more honest about the occasional tiny mote in your eye, than most others are about the huge logs they have in both of theirs!

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ReadingRainbow's avatar

Do you recommend removing (apparently) benign lipomas?

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Michelle's avatar

Was it a fatty lipoma?

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

Yes, it was one that had been stable for years.

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Stephanie S's avatar

Lengthy but well worth the read. I’m not jabbed but if I ever have a cancer diagnosis, I won’t opt for chemo/radiation first. It’s a sad mess created by big pharma and our government and people need to be held accountable.🙏🏼

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Leonie Wynne's avatar

Same here Stephanie, not jabbed either. I have heard there are treatments out there that can treat cancers but I’m not going to speak of them here. I will speak highly though of DMSO which I bought for my shoulder rotor cuff injury after gardening too much. Couldn’t lift my arm above my neck area for months and after doing some research decided to buy a jar which has some aloe Vera gel included in mixture. Within a month my shoulder improved over 50% and some exercise, but not only that I had a dark mole on my shoulder blade which disappeared completely and can only put it down to this DSMO. I was so excited that I’m going to try using it on my varicose veins to see what happens. I also have read various articles on the great success of food grade (6 or 12%) hydrogen peroxide daily in juice or water as a cure for lots of things. Also highly recommend the potential of oil of oregano daily diluted and or mixed as a potent cream for all things.

I too are hopeful of a natural cure for all cancers.

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Stephanie S's avatar

Just purchased the dmso cream for our son’s neck issue; he hasn’t tried it yet so can’t say if it’s helped but very hopeful after all I’ve read. I have read about food grade peroxide but haven’t tried it. I am always looking for alternatives to big pharma.

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Elizabeth's avatar

Nebulization of food grade hydrogen peroxide and sterile normal saline is a game changer for treatment of Covid or any respiratory illness. Check out Dr Joe Mercola’s YouTube on the topic. I have done this technique for several years and it nips illness in the Bud!

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Frances's avatar

Dr Thomas Levy also recommends nebulisation/nebulization with hydrogen peroxide; protocol might be slightly different from Mercola's.

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Stephanie S's avatar

Povidone iodine, too ( added to saline rinse and/or nebulizer ).

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sunreader's avatar

I also have a shoulder injury which gets so painful at times. I was going to get the gel dmso just concerned about it burning. I have very sensitive skin. Did it cause you any redness or irritation?

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Leonie Wynne's avatar

No irritation at all with the aloe vera gel and dmso. I also have sensitive skin and get eczema with certain foods, mostly on my hands 🙌 so that stings slightly when I use it on shoulder.

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Stephanie S's avatar

No irritation for me; it has lavender oil in it so that may be why. I know everyone is different.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Great post.

I wish, and hope, that someone, someday, will come up with an inexpensive drug protocol that would "cure cancer," and such a protocol will be confirmed by rigorous clinical trials, as opposed to wild claims of often-anonymous, self-interested Internet promoters via cherry-picked "testimonials" and third-party statements.

Sadly, this day has not come yet. Ivermectin + fenbendazole, sadly, has all the hallmarks of a cancer scam, similar to "antineoplastons," laetrile, etc, etc. Cancer quackery has a long and storied history, and every newly proposed cancer treatment should be seen with high degree of suspicion because of such prior experiences.

You cannot "starve cancer". The cancer will starve you.

Cancer, quackery, and frauds, sadly, go together like hand and glove. The reasons are obvious: people cannot accept the near-inevitability of a highly unpleasant death and are willing to try anything. We cannot blame them for this. The cancer quackery scam promoters, unfortunately, are to blame for swindling dying people.

I went through this about two decades ago with two relatives, one of whom did spend a significant (for them) sum on scam treatments, shamans, etc. The other one's cancer was so rapid that he could not access any treatments.

Cancer is a terrible experience for the dying patient, a traumatic experience for loved ones, and something I hope we can prevent and cure completely, some day.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

Thank you for chiming in, I really appreciate everything you've done over the years on Substack.

When I was younger, I was drawn to the alternative cancer treatments and despised conventional therapies and by the time I was in college I had successfully treated other people's cancers with natural cancer treatments. After I became a doctor and learned a lot more about medicine, I realized that cancer was much more difficult to treat than I thought and that most of what I'd learned beforehand was a gross oversimplification that did not work for many people.

Being on here, I initially really wanted to write extensively about the topic, but the issue I kept coming back to was "a lot of what I do highly varies depending on the person, so there is no universal guidance I can give which is not going to harm some of the people who read it" and because of that, I largely gave up on the topic and focused on other topics where I didn't feel I would be harming people who trusted me. That's been a bit painful for me because I've invested so much into this area, but precisely for the reasons you laid out, I have avoided doing so.

I do think there's a huge amount of room for improvement on how we manage cancer and much better trials could be developed, but I also feel realistically unless we can change the NCI directorship or have a lot of independent practices like Pierre Kory's compile a huge volume of data it's never going to happen.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

It is very good that you think about not "harming people who trust you". I am glad to hear that.

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Is there any possibility that 'cancer' may be, at least in part, if not entirely, caused by negative thought and that prevention starts there, at the root, rather than attempting a cure at the end result, the cancer?

Of course, if the negative thought occurred long, long ago and we are only now, in this life-time, bearing the consequences, it throws this concept in the rubbish bin, along with the rest. I mean, you can't go back in time, can you?

In which case, can change only happen now in this moment, with present thought ....... and 'results' in the future (like next 10 minutes or 10,000 years)?

It's either a bit bleak, or the most wonderful gift of our Creator where there is free Will (and the consequences of same) and there are no accidents in the Universe. Take your pick.

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Yes. Negative thought affects the immune system. My doctor asked me, when I was diagnosed, if I'd had an emotional upset. I had. Apparently that can be the tipping point to let the cancer take hold. I worked in benefits for several years. People who lost a spouse of many decades often passed within a year of the spouse's death.

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Danbob's avatar

Yes, absolutely. You cannot separate the mind from the body and folks would do well to realize their thoughts impact their health and life. Placebo and Nocebo are faith and fear manifested in a way standard medicine cannot grasp. The patient's outlook is impactful enough, I spend time discussing it with them because I have seen how critical it is to the process.

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Edward Chastka's avatar

In his book, "The Cancer Biopathy," Dr. Wilhelm Reich reports that he was able to get tumors to shrink or even disappear treating patients with his orgone accumulator, but the cancer process, which he thought was an emotional or bioenergetic shrinking, was only temporartily halted. Reich considered emotional resignation and bioenergetic shrinking to be the underlying cause of many cancers.

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Lulu's avatar

You should try following Dr. Makis substack to better explore your concerns. I will not bother sharing my experience with IVM/fenben. It seems popular to discredit people's real experiences as "quackery" now that Adams did it so Adamantly.

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One of dearest friends was just treated for Stage 4 ovarian cancer by Dr. Makis. She did a reduced chemo therapy (because of how frail she was, waiting 9 months to get a correct diagnosis, grrrr!) along with his protocol, ozone therapy, IV vitamin C, supplements, and fasting. After 3 months she is cancer-free much to the shock of her conventional oncologists. She did a zoom with Dr. Makis yesterday and they both giggled through the zoom. She said he is a very kind, caring and loving man. Her conventional oncologists want her to go off the ivermectin and MenBen for 2 weeks because they claim it is causing her to have low white blood cell count, a common side-effect of CHEMO but, of course, it must be the ivermectin and MenBen (grrrr again!). They would like to write a case study on her and how they successfully treated her but there’s that pesky ivermectin/MenBen element that they do not want to be part of the case study. You don’t want to know the words I used to describe what I think of the conventional doctors but clearly they want the win more than they care about my very brave friend’s successful determination to find the right protocols that would ensure her survival. GOD bless Dr. Makis. He is a genuine healer and cares deeply about his patients, their health, and their will to survive. He helps people roll the boulder up a hill and does everything in his power to keep if from rolling back over them. We should all be grateful that such a doctor still exists. May GOD protect and keep him safe for the benefit of people like my friend.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

thank you for this comment. So great to hear that your close friend is now cancer free thanks to Dr. Makis' protocol and the other therapeutics.

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Alternative Minded's avatar

Life is GOOD!!

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Me Jane's avatar

It's scary to see the lengths several are going to discredit Dr Makis. May God bless and protect him, indeed.

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I could not agree more, darling Me Jane! You have to wonder what is in their hearts that they so viciously attack Dr. Makis. His sole goal is to help people survive what, in many cases, is the most terrifying times of their lives. How can anyone find fault with that? Me thinks it might have a tad to do with jealousy. It’s the only explanation I can come up with for these visceral attacks. I hope they change course and change what is in their hearts. XOXO

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

the more the 'other' doctors, the press etc. discredit him, the more it looks to me that he is honest and a real doctor, helping patients !

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Don Midwest's avatar

Makis is treating Stage IV cancer patients who are looking at the face of death.

Many of his patients have gone through traditional cancer treatments and need something additional.

He is under attack by his state in Canada and the Canadian government. He is in survival mode to treat patients and lacks the time to write up his results.

Notice that A Midwestern Doctor does not totally discount Makis' work, but says that he/she has not studied it closely nor seen cases first hand where it worked.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I think Makis is trying his best to help people. I read his stack for a while, I see nothing wrong with him. But of course, it is hard for sick people who don't get help from his procedure, to see that.

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My concern is that he publishes the incredible results some of his patients are getting, but he has not been forthcoming about the fact that most of his patients do not see those kinds of results and that some see no results at all. Because he has not stated that kind of information, readers of his posts are likely to conclude that IVM and Fenben is a miracle cure for all cancers.

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Delred's avatar

He also says 75 percent of his patients experience positive results from his protocols. That definitely can mislead people.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I have a very small list of people whom I trust and Makis is not in that list

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TAS's avatar

Would you mind sharing who you do trust Igor?

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Adrian W's avatar

WHY?

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sk's avatar

It's why you have to randomize patients and use a placebo control group. But also be cognizant that diseases can exist in a spectrum so responses may vary.

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Danbob's avatar

Not necessarily. We don't need to get caught in that trap at such an early stage. If there were such a dramatic effect, we would all be seeing that effect. Instead what many of us are seeing is a similar picture as AMD outlined. The reality is, the dramatic response cases are a minority and if it were a true reflection of the picture we would be having a different discussion. Unfortunately, folks are being led to believe dramatic response is the norm when in fact, they are the outliers. We need to see ALL the data to find out what we are apparently doing so wrong with our patients that we see face to face.

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sk's avatar

Yes, all the data, which we don't get from the relatively few alternative practitioners or big pharma etc. The endpoints chosen by big pharma are often laughable and patients can be dropped out from trial analyses for multiple reasons.

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Danbob's avatar

PRECISELY.

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Michael Srite's avatar

It appears Makis is practicing medicine without a valid license in Canada, and perhaps in California, where Scott Adams lives, as well as other US states.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

Be careful about slamming someone without proof. First of all- respect God’s golden rule. Secondly, Dr. Makis has already been crushed by establishment medicine during COVID. What about all the mainline doctors who pushed the clot shots? They never lost their licenses. Yes there are “quacks”, but when you really look into what “established “ medicine has been promoting- you will find just as bad and worse.

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Michael Srite's avatar

Good point, Mary, thank you. Makis did not lose his license for quackery, nor anything to do with covid or his prescribing ivermec/fenben as a cancer cure. I agree the doctors who recommended the mRNA shots are a disgrace to the profession, but their licenses will most likely not be canceled.

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Charlotte's avatar

I had a cancer that cannot be treated with chemo or radiation. I follow Makis in case I have a recurrence. It is mucosal melanoma (not cutaneous/skin). It actually shouldn’t be categorized as a melanoma. When you have one of the really bad ones, sometimes you just don’t have many options.

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Bill's avatar

God bless you Charlotte 🙌🙏🙌❤️🌹

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Charlotte's avatar

Thank you 🙏🏻❤️ Still here!

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Alternative Minded's avatar

Darling, Charlotte. Please read my post above and reach out to Dr. Makis. Sending prayers and a BIG HUG your way. XOXO

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

Hello, I apologize, that was a spam bot not me. I deleted and blocked them.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

when I was still in school, a lifetime ago, I read an article that an American doctor found a cure for cancer and sold it to one of the big pharma. Of course he had had to sign that he would not betray them and got a big amount of money, and they of course, put it very far deep in the freezer. I did not hear about this story anymore so I don't know what happened to the doctor, but I am sure there are cures out there, and that everyone who tries them is being blocked by big pharma. The golden cow of cancer treatments cannot be killed.

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Lulu's avatar

Hans Ruesch wrote about the cancer scam in The Naked Empress in 1981. Somehow the American Cancer Society is one of the wealthiest non-profits going, yet no closer to a cure (back then and now).

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Me Jane's avatar

Exactly ... and, it's interesting that those calling for Dr Makis to post both his successes and non-successful cases don't demand the same of the hospital system oncology departments/docs.

Dr Makis has mentioned that he's receiving 1,000s of emails/day requesting consults. No telling how many cases his clinic is working on. Oh, but, lets bash the successes he's posting.

Unreal.

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karmen's avatar

Have you see doctor in person or video?? I only got an email and its said clear consultation by email only, its sounds fishy for me

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Jeannette's avatar

Do you know how to get ahold of Dr Makis ? Keep hearing he’s not on Facebook , email address for him ? Thanks

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Me Jane's avatar

Dr Makis has his own substack where he posts successful treatment articles, almost daily ...

https://makismd.substack.com/

You can click on any one of the stories and see his email exchanges w/the patient in article ... his email addy is on all of those email exchanges. Good luck!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

of course not! the cancer society will be useless if there is a cure. so they probably block all cures as well

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Fred Jewett's avatar

I was a little slow catching on but stopped donating to Cancer Research in 2022. It always lurked in the back of my mind that it was taking a long time and a lot of money to cure cancer. I understand it is complicated to develop medical cures but when people report success with simple commonly available products then what in H___ is the Cancer Society doing with all that money?

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Mouzer's avatar

Back in the late 70's I read a book about a man who cured cancers. He used some sort of liquid or oil he concocted specifically for different ones. As I recall, his treatments were suppressed or he was driven out of medicine. Can't find the book now, don't remember the exact title, was something like "the man who cured cancer." If I recall correctly, Adele Davis got cancer, moved to an apricot farm and recovered from her cancer. Of course apricots are the source of laetrile. Who knows? The information all seems to vanish.

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Charlotte's avatar

We basically witnessed that in real time with the cure for hepatitis C. First it was horrifically expensive and not accessible. Then it was bought by a greedy individual who practically made it impossible to acquire. Finally the public was made aware and the outrage was so great, it came back on the market. It’s still outrageously expensive but long term cheaper than life long treatment. That whole case illustrated the push and pull of the pharmaceutical companies trying to promote life long therapies that are more lucrative for them than an actual cure.

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Chaz's avatar

Kenny Ausubel wrote about the politics of cancer cures in his article (and now a book) entitled "When Healing Becomes a Crime". He writes of the Hoxsey treatment, which had thousands of cures (persons often sent to him when everyone else gave up), and was made with simple ingredients, easily reproducable at home, apparently. But which has long been administered in Tijuana, Mexico (not to be mixed up with several obvious misleading alternatives there, such as 'biopulse', apparently).

Read the article via archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020727140053/www.ripsawnews.com/2001.07.18/feature.html

Quick quote from the article:

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"...what has remained hidden from most people is the existence of the other cancer war: organized medicine’s zealous campaign against “unorthodox” cancer treatments and their practitioners. Over the course of the 20th century, innovators such as Harry Hoxsey advanced more than 100 alternative approaches, at least several of which have seemed to hold significant promise. Yet rather than inviting interest and investigation from mainstream medicine, their champions have been ridiculed, threatened with the loss of professional licenses, harassed, prosecuted or driven out of the country.

"The facts clearly reveal that a consortium of interests has consistently condemned these treatments without investigation: the American Medical Association, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Cancer Institute and the American Cancer Society, as well as certain large corporations that profit from the cancer industry. It is important to emphasize that this confederation of interests known as organized medicine consists principally of medical politicians and business interests, not practicing doctors. Physicians themselves have often objected to the unscientific rejection of alternative therapies and to restrictions on their own freedom to research or administer them.

"The news blackout and disinformation campaign muffling this scandal have been so effective that most people do not happen into the underground of “disappeared” therapies until the fateful moment when they or their friends or relations are diagnosed with the dread disease." (...)

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Thank you for the tip ! I read the article and ordered the book.

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Crixcyon's avatar

I agree completely. There are cures silenced by big pharma goons.

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LWC's avatar

Thank goodness, we were ordered to take the vax or be laid off. We happily took the latter.

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Mouzer's avatar

What a terrible, invasive demand on your sovereign body. How brave of you. So many bent the knee.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Since I have known (among family, relatives and friends) only one or two people over the last 50 years to survive cancer using chemo and radiation, or at least add a few years to their lives, why not try more natural cures? There is just as much "quackery" in modern medicine as there is in alternative medicines, maybe more because the money stakes are much higher.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

a friend's father had cancer and was given one year if he started the standard treatment rightaway. He refused and lived another 3 years.

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erin's avatar

And mainstream medicine and the "quack watchers" are among the culprits too. If honest trials were made to weed out the bullshit from the valid therapies, we'd all be ahead. But in the current political climate (which includes the last 90 years) this has been impossible.

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Chaz's avatar

You might want to look into Quackpotwatch. There's been much heated contestation and dialogue on them, and well worth reading! Tho the website appears to be offline.

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Michelle's avatar

Dr. Pierre Kory recently wrote a piece defending Bryzinski and is his antineoplastin therapy. Even Bryzinski admitted it couldn’t cure everyone.

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Fred Jewett's avatar

I was surprised to see Dr. Makis (criticized recently by Scott Adams) come out so aggressively against AMD when AMD did not say anything negative about ivermectin however did not endorse it either. I subscribe to Dr. Makis and wrote two comments asking him to show his success ratio(s) to put the matter to rest. I believe Dr. Makis is on to something with Ivermectin, Fenbendazole and Mebendazole. I was shocked when I went to comment today and got a notice " YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR 1000 YEARS). What kind of doctor does that when asked to show their treatments are effective. Now I am wondering if there is something he is hiding. Surgeons are concerned with success ratios and I had one operation in my lifetime and asked the surgeon about his success ratio which he provided to me on the spot.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

The short version of this is that:

1. Numerous patients and doctors who share patients with Makis have contacted me with concerns about what he is doing (ie. exaggerating his results, abandoning his patients who need help, and blocking or relentlessly attacking anyone who questions him) and asked me to write something about it because they were worried it would tank the repurposed drugs treating cancer field due to cases like Adam's prompting "misinformation experts" to start investigating everything and finding out about all these other cases.

2. I was hesitant to do anything as I feel it is bad to ever target other people in this field and Makis has done a lot of good work by promoting the turbo cancer message. However, I also felt it was important for cancer patients to understand they cannot solely pin their hopes on IVM fenben, so this article was written to address what I felt the primary issue was, overreliance on a new therapy, rather than focusing on Makis.

3. After I did that, Makis started sending me a lot of threatening private messages and publicly accusing me of working for the pharmaceutical industry.

4. I engaged in a week long dialog with him in the hopes he would listen to my points, specifically that:

•Sensationalizing his treatment results will backfire (as there's a long history of this causing alternative cancer treatments to get permanently blacklisted).

•If he is getting much better results than everyone else, rather than talking down to us, he needs to explain what he is doing an giving the data to corroborate it so others can copy what he is doing.

5. Makis initially listened to me and said that he would not mention any of this again, but then flipped to insisting he was the one who knew the correct way to treat cancer (so we needed to listen to him) and that sensationalizing things is good because it brings more attention to the therapy. He then blocked me and ever since then he's been constantly posting things on Twitter which say I work for the pharmaceutical industry and am cruelly selling cancer patients out because they are paying me off.

He recently started attacking Berenson (who is quite biased against ivermectin) and they are now having a fight where Berenson is digging up a lot of dirt on Makis to paint him and ivermectin in as bad a light as possible and I'm now quite worried that is going to spiral out of control.

A lot of people have warned Makis that the way he's acting is going to backfire on him and the field, but he won't listen to them, so it is what it is. I felt I did the right thing here, but ever since then I've been dealing with constant harassment and quite a few unsubscribes. I deeply wish there was some easy universal solution to cancer, but we've looked for decades and while we've found ways to make things a lot better, we still have not found that silver bullet.

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Fred Jewett's avatar

Thankyou for you providing a better picture of what is going on with Dr. Makis.

I along with many others wish him success in his efforts however his fighting with the top people on substack is not helpful to the cause.

Have an enjoyable evening.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

That's a big part of why I'm not responding to any of what he's posting about me. All I cared about was cancer patients hearing that these drugs fit best as a complimentary rather primary cancer therapy and that message has been heard.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

This is so sad. It leads to no good at all. Instead of trying to help people, they are fighting like little schoolboys - big egos. I quit Berenson quite early on because of it.

You are right - not all therapies work for everyone. Every person is different and every illness is different from all the others in all the other people. I just wish there were information about it all. And above all, it is also the people's choice. If people prefer the cut-burn-poison therapy, that is their right as well.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

I think the biggest problem we've always is an ambiguous and vague information landscape which allows those with the most power to hijack narratives for their own need so a big goal here to try to give clarity on complex topics that directly affect all of us.

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sue's avatar

The infighting between the establishment and the non-establishment is not good. With all the spin, sometimes it's hard to know the good guys from the bad. But I hope you can take comfort in knowing that I never for a second believed what he was saying about you being a shill for pharmaceuticals. Nobody who has read your posts for long could.

In comparison if you follow his Substack, the cancer posts are fairly rational although only show improvements, even when they are fairly unimportant ones like tumors shrinking. But his other posts, such as about his persecution from the Canadian government, are highly emotionally charged and somewhat incoherent. I can understand how these types of actions can really mess with a person, and I am empathic. But they make me question his stability.

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Delred's avatar

Thank you for posting this, the context is insightful.

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Delred's avatar

Makis banned me as well, and his substack was the only one I paid for. Yeah after covid we’re just supposed to believe everything we read. His patient testimonials are proof of nothing. I want to believe him, and hope there’s a miraculous cure, but yes something seems off.

Wouldn’t you think he’d have hundreds of patients coming out and defending him after Scott Adams said the protocol didn’t work? Especially after Adams said neither he or we know anyone that has been cured. Stating a 75 percent success rate seems very high for people with late stage cancer, but I don’t know anything about cancer treatment in the first place.

Pathetic he banned us though!

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Fred Jewett's avatar

Yes I saw your name when reading the comments on Dr. Makis's substack. Sorry to hear you got banned as well. Something is wrong on Dr. Makis's site. I don't know why he is banning people who object to his slamming AMD. I even donated to his legal fund when he put out the call for help. Maybe all this will come out later. In the meantime I have unsubscribed from his substack.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

One Canadian wrote me, that she did not trust Makis. But she gave no reason. Now you and Delred, both blocked by him, give a rather nasty picture of him. I am sorry he does this - in a way I can understand, as he has been attacked so often, but this is no reason to block people.

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Don Midwest's avatar

I subscribed recently to his substack. I published a couple of normal comments. I was banned for 3 months. I am not upset because I know he is facing an enemy.

He is now saying that it is not a war against him, but a war against cancer. For the first time AMD has been hit by spam bots (maybe it happened earlier, but I didn't notice).

The Cancer Mafia is very powerful and is more entrenched than the mRNA mafia. And the adverse events from mRNA are more noticeable and everyone has had some experience with mRNA vs the relatively secret cancer treatments. I am using the term secret because they are cloaked in medical science terms during a time when death is the course of the disease. "hard to be objective when your career is can be terminated" Well, how about: hard to be objective when you are in pain and your life can end.

HENCE: the need to keep fear front and center!!!!!! Fear of CANCER!!!

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Virstyne Henry's avatar

I'm going to be honest here. I'm really sick and tired of being shat on for trying to help people. I spent months putting together an article and video for free to help COVID vaccinated people.

https://virstynehenry.substack.com/p/there-is-hope

I was polite and put in in Scott Adams comment section. He removed it. Even if he didn't agree. It could help someone else. What bothers me is he talks about free speech and free expression but can't handle it if someone has a different "opinion" based on facts. He said in his video that the "Anti-Vaxxers" are horrible people. As an "Anti-Vaxxer” I don't see how we were such horrible people, when we risked everything to warn people like him of the vaccine that obviously gave him cancer. There is a mountain of evidence that proves COVID Vaccines Cause Cancer. This is where intellectuals lose me. They pretend to be intelligent, but when It comes to common sense, all of their so-called intellect goes out of the window, and they are too prideful to take responsibility for their suffering that they caused themselves. I saw his video when he admitted that the "Anti-Vaxxers" were right. But he just dismisses it as a lucky guess not because we are intelligent too. I mean we can't possibly be more intelligent than him right? We knew the COVID vaccines were dangerous because we actually know how to read and examine data and/or we’ve been injured by vaccines ourselves. We didn’t make a lucky guess. I'm so over him.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

Very few people like to admit they are wrong, and that has been the case all throughout human history! I try to have compassion for the fact people will just always do things like this. Scott half admitted he was wrong, which honestly is a lot better than many other people will go.

One question though, as far as I know, it is impossible to delete other people's comments on Twitter, so was this comment there or someone else (ie. on YouTube).

Also, regarding his situation, quite a few people I know who've attacked Scott Adams over his remarks on the vaccine, after watching the video, all said "I just feel bad for him and don't want to attack him anymore. The shot probably caused his cancer but that's none of my business."

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Patrick Smith's avatar

I was definitely (admittedly) wrong to get vaccinated for Covid

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Virstyne Henry's avatar

I know people don't like to admit that they are wrong. I know this has been happening since the beginning of time but it doesn’t make it right or excusable. Honestly, I'm all out of compassion for these people. Especially influencers with huge followings. They are complicit in destroying people's lives because of their stubbornness. They are going to set precedent for millions of people to do the same. To be dismissive, and to encourage people not to take responsibility for their mistakes. It’s not healthy for society.

His half-hearted apology for belittling vaccine skeptics was dismissive, implying their concerns were a "lucky guess" rather than reasoned. He continues to demean those trying to help him then play the victim when they push back. Having cancer doesn't excuse being an asshole—many with terminal illnesses remain compassionate. If he instigates conflicts and then claim attacks due to his illness, he’s misrepresenting the situation. If he has a platform to talk about how great he is he should be open to take criticism when he instigated it.

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Virstyne Henry's avatar

I've been an "Anti-Vaxxer" since 2011. I've reached my limit. There were literally people calling for us to be jailed and put to death. And we have risked everything to help people. Jobs, relationships, careers, our sanity etc. When does having compassion for these people become a form of pathological altruism? I feel I literally have to stand up for myself for my own sanity. I think people need to be held accountable and they don't get a pass because they are "sick" many people use their sickness as a weapon. Meaning they can be mean but when you stand up for yourself they say. " Oh My God! I can't believe you're doing this to me, I HAVE CANCER! I'm not wishing death and suffering on him but, maybe compassion is in the form of tough love and not coddling someone when they are an asshole.

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Chaz's avatar

I also think you should add "institutional analysis" in, so that you understand how professionals, generally, are taught to believe. Usually it comes down, in my own analysis, to people reacting rigidly due to The Need for funding. If they aren't rigid in their belief, they don't get or maintain crucial funding. Plus it also seems to come down to a religious-like mentality, where professionals defend their ideological "turf" so that they don't get maligned by their own group, which they've "invested in" deeply, including long years of education and then the social aspect, where if viewed Badly by fellow believers, losing what smidgeon of "community" they had. So there are some big meta stakes at play, and most people are not aware of these coercions within the sciences. Look over what Dr.Judy Mikovits says in her books, or even RFK,Jr's intro to her second book on 'Plague'.

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Danbob's avatar

"Vaccine Safety Advocate "

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Virstyne Henry's avatar

No I'm going with "Anti-Vaxxer." Anti means against. I'm against all vaccines. I have no shame in that word. It makes me feel strong. Vaccines have no benefit and all risk. People need to grow up and stop being afraid of that word. I'm an ANTI-VAXXER because I am against all vaccines. Vaccines can never be made safe.Vaccines have never cured, prevented anything and never will. If you still think vaccines are safe and effective you should read the book Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries and Romyan Bystranick that is a great place to start. I sleep well at night referring to myself as an Anti-Vaxxer. Anti-Vaxxer for life!

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Baldmichael's avatar

I call myself anti-stupid as I don't believe in poisoning myself with toxic vaccines. It took me to 2020 to realise they were all as you indicate of no benefit and only risk. A gross evil which has persisted for far too long.

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Danbob's avatar

My point is, "they" use that term to get ppl to ignore what you say. Just like they used the label "conspiracy theorist," when in fact now days, having one in your circle, may keep you alive. Regardless, keep up the good fight.

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Karyne's avatar

Same here.

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Karyne's avatar

Some people state that Scott was vilifying those who didn’t want to get the vax. If that’s the case it would have been nice to hear him apologise to those who knew better, even half heartedly would do because many of us suffered badly from the actions and words of the ignorant.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

It is really sad, and he sounds like he is suffering so much that it’s hard to think clearly. However, he is still spewing out health advice up to the bitter end- saying that ivermectin and fenbendazole and other things didn’t work, and mentioning Dr. Makis and then saying he was going back to “real” doctors (who likely made him sick in the first place).

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Virstyne Henry's avatar

Sorry I didn't answer your question about the Twitter removal. I put it in his comment section, Immediately after I got a notification saying that my account contained spam. I looked and couldn't find it. Maybe if it is tagged as spam it can be removed? I don't know. I wouldn't use the phrase impossible to remove. Even though that is what Twitter promises, they don't live up to it. Myself as well as other people I know have had their comments removed or they just suddenly disappeared. Yep, just did another scan on the thread and both of the links I posted are not there.

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kmvause's avatar

I don't know how or why but I do know you can rarely see all the comments especially on a controversial thread.

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KittyDeLore's avatar

But you can go to your own profile in Twitter and look at all your comments to various people.

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Richard Sharpe's avatar

This is crazy. If you are wrong WRT medical approaches people can and will die.

There is nothing wrong with proposing a new approach, but when trials suggest it is wrong and kills people (like the Covid-19 Vaccines seem to do) maybe you should admit it was an incorrect approach.

It may be that those who were seemingly helped by the Covid-19 vaccines would have survived anyway without it and that the IgG4 class switch that seems to have been caused by it will lead to long-term harm for those people.

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I'll admit the "lucky guess" thing riles me a bit too. I can think of at least 3 things that enabled us to make a "lucky guess" based on just one of them, and especially all 3 taken together:

1) The government (and its propaganda arm the media) has lied to us over and over and over: Gulf of Tonkin; murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK; 911; WMD's in Iraq; Syrian gas attacks; and Russiagate for starters

2) Pharma and the FDA are not to be trusted. Look at what happened with VIOXX. Merck ran a fraudulent trial, FDA knew it was fradulent but approved it anyway. People died and Merck was handed the biggest fine ever for a pharma company. Look at what the FDA did to DMSO. FDA is not to be trusted.

3) They LIED about it being a vaccine. They had to change the definition of "vaccine" in order to call them vaccines. There had NEVER been an injectable product that tricked your own cells into creating trillions of toxic foreign proteins. Can you spell autoimmune disease?

Those of us who made a "lucky guess" looked at those three things and said, "no thank you, I will pass"

That a person could ignore all 3 of these and call themselves intelligent and call us the lucky guessers is beyond ironic.

Edit: I would add a fourth thing: By the time I would have been able to get the jab, VAERS reports were already off the charts and I had already heard of the sister of a close friend of mine dying in her sleep after her 2nd Moderna shot.

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TeacherLori's avatar

I merely wanted to take a “wait and see” approach, but when we were offered so many unhealthy and outrageous rewards for taking the vax, I knew something was not right. I guess we can call that “lucky”?😏

At any rate, there was simply no way to guarantee long-term safety, and I figured by not taking the vax I was 100% protected from the vaccine over an illness I had a 99+% chance of surviving.🤷🏻‍♀️

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Chiadrum's avatar

Right. I explained to my buddy that with proper vitamin d levels my death risk was something like .003%. I’m good with that. You do you.

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Atlandea's avatar

My intuition saved me. I didn't need to back that up with logic.

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Karyne's avatar

Exactly

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Demonhype's avatar

For me, I read their description about what their exciting new vaccine platform would do and hiw it worked and my first instinct was "um...it seems to me this is a recipe for causing an autoimmune disorder disorder yeah, not interested". I was waiting for the Novavax protein subunit, and was brutally attacked as an antivaxxer for choosing that route. Then Herr Biden informed me that his patience had worn thin and that I would be prohibited from earning food and shelter if I refused the mRNA "miracle" any further, which was extremely suspect since we already knew the jabs did not stop you from catching or spreading covid, and learned that regardless of vax platform, coronavirus vaccines have a history of danger and inefficacy, and that was it. No jabs for me, mRNA or not.

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Laura Garcia's avatar

As someone with a history of autoimmune (and a strong family medical history of it as well), I had the same reaction as you. Why would I have my own cells create a pathogen? Sure seemed like it would be like rolling out the red carpet for my rogue immune system to attack self. Sadly, that’s exactly what happened to my 82 year old mother. She suffered from sudden onset of Mysathenia Gravis and the doctors didn’t even have it on radar. I diagnosed her after reviewing VAERS but it was too late. The bloodwork came back positive after she died from the MG crisis.

The other thing….common sense….you can’t speed up time. The claims of safe and effective were automatically false as there had clearly been no studies on long term effects. They tried to counter this argument saying that the mRNA platform had been studied for 20 years—-all the while not mentioning the products that never made it out of clinical trials. In fact, the Covid vax was the first product to go to market from Moderna, which was founded in 2010.

So many lies. And I think TPTB knew. They knew it was a giant clinical trial….that is how vested they are in this gene therapy.

And I also believe they are going to use their precious AI and our data to carry on in the future. We were lab rats. And they knew it and have laughed all the way to the bank.

And quite frankly, given that Trump and others are embracing the likes of Thiel and Musk….hard to trust the new “experts.” I think TPTB own both sides of the political aisle and am not sure real change is occurring as much as they want us to believe it is….

https://lauragarcia.substack.com/p/what-about-those-vaccine-cards?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

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TheWitness's avatar

I like to think that God told me to avoid the Jabs and still believe that. However, there were safety signals too. I told my wife and children that I would be the last person in the state of Michigan to take it.

In the end, there were just so many warning signs, and too many experts were like "this will never work and has never worked due to a, b, c, etc.".

So, three years later here we are. Right after all. It's quite sad though.

I just lost my baby sister a little over a month ago to a rare endometrial cancer. I'm pretty sure she took the jab. The cancer was diagnosed at stage 4. We signed up for Dr. Kories study, and though she did get several more months of life, the end was horrible as it always is.

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Alternative Minded's avatar

Oh, dear Witness! I’m so sorry for the loss of your baby sister and the suffering you both had to endure. Sending a BIG HUG your way. XOXO

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TheWitness's avatar

Thanks for that. She is at peace now with her husband.

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Baldmichael's avatar

I am very sorry to hear about your sister. The Holy Spirit enlightened me on many things in 2020 including vaccines. As you say there were many signs, even signs and wonders, lying signs and wonders about which we have been warned.

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TheWitness's avatar

Amen!

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Jan Laan's avatar

Not to forget the idiocy that all of a sudden disease acquired immunity was supposed to be inferior to vax acquired immunity.At 81 I had covid in June 2020 so considered myself covered.But no, I was urged to get vaccinated by 2 ER doctors and 2 cardiologists while awaiting bypass surgery in 2022.

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KittyDeLore's avatar

Mayo Clinic wanted my immune suppressed, kidney transplant patient husband to be jabbed in order to be seen for his yearly checkup. We said NO THANK YOU and haven't been back to Mayo/Jax since 2019. I am his donor and we have been very focused on keeping him healthy. The fact that they required something like this has totally blown any trust we had in them. My husband sees his local nephrologist and will continue to do so. We just had our 20th transplant/donor anniversary so we must be doing something right. We made the joint decision early on that we wouldn't be taking the jabs. We begged all of our family to refuse them. Unfortunately, no one listened. I have 1 BIL that agreed with us. The rest of my husband's family took them and my daughter took them and jabbed her son at age 7. My only grandchild. My heart is broken.

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Mouzer's avatar

Same pressure here. And the doctor denied I had covid because I didn't get the PCR test. I had the right symptoms and a letter from Lab Corp warning me I'd been exposed. He's not my doctor any more.

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Jan Laan's avatar

Right, same BS with me.Apparently it was such a terrible disease that you had to be tested for it to know that you had it.Give me a break.

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Ande's avatar

We had a conversation with friends, some now dead about mRNA and they all scoffed at us and said don’t you mean DNA, we both in unison said No we don’t, we mean mRNA. How did we know about it and that group of people were completely blind/ dumb to it, because we read, listened, talked and pondered, then opened our mouths. I understand the frustration of the earlier reply on the cost to those who did not, I had a family member go bankrupt over it.

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Baldmichael's avatar

His lucky guess comment was about as dumb as they come. There were so many clues he should have picked up on.

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mimi's avatar

I didn't take it because I read the information about it and decided that I didn't want them messing around with my messenger RNA (whatever that was.....) and also because I read about the deaths of the Florida doctor and Hank Aaron and thought these things just might be dangerous.

I came close to getting one later on because I thought Newsom might figure out a way to force us to get it, so I considered getting the J&J (no way was I getting 2 shots) but it wasn't available anywhere anymore.

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May 25Edited

Well said! Isn't it ironic he invented Dilbert to poke fun at corporate America, yet he's all in with the biggest corporates like Pfizer, and big pharma in the end? I wish him the best, but I can't rationalize that.

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Excessive Ego, is always a problem

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Lucky guess Scott? Nah man. We KNEW that mRNA tech was riddled with obstacles that had never been overcome. Fraudci was on video saying we needed an emergency to overcome people’s hesitation. And we KNEW that a “vaccine” for any coronavirus was impossible since the virus would quickly mutate. It was all risk, no benefit. Hard pass. Doesn’t make me a terrible person.

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His comment re 'luck' was pure arrogance. This is anagram of his full name, Scott Raymond Adams:

- sad mad scatty moron

I am sorry to say that anybody who didn't suspect something was very off before the COVID 19 vaccine rollout really was a moron.

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Danbob's avatar

The Dunning-Kruger effect.

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MJB's avatar

I can’t begin to express my appreciation for the incredibly in-depth articles you write here. Thank you for all your work!

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I figured!

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Jeff Prager's avatar

I was hoping someone would write this.

I have stage 4 Metastatic Lung cancer diagnosed Nov. 04, 2022, have never experienced pain and wouldn't know I had cancer unless someone told me.

I've also used Fendbendazole at 1000mg/2 weeks, 1500mg/2 weeks and then 2000mg/2 weeks along with Ivermectin. That didn't work but I definitely don't recommend the protocol even though it was recommended by a physician who published with Dr. Makis and others.

I've used Ivermectin at 64mg/day with Mebendazole at 1000mg/day, also recommended by Dr. Makis. That doesn't cure cancer either/

I've used DMSO, Chlorine Dioxide and every diet one might consider.

I just got some Hematoxylin from a lab and intend to inject it subcutaneously with DMSO.

Cancer is, for me, a psychiatric disease. You can live with most cancers if you understand what to do and when and that's taken time. Ivermectin, Fenbendazole and Mebendazole were all used in conjunction with chemotherapy and often Keytruda in all of Dr. Makis' success stories and there's a reason for that. These drugs abrogate adverse effects and accentuate the effectiveness of chemo and immunotherapy drugs. It's in the peer review, volumes, and having used them all I know it's true. One can reduce the dosage of chemotherapy drugs by as much as 50%. Melatonin at 150mg/day is also protective but none of these drugs cure cancer. They ameliorate the side effects of chemotherapy and immunotherapy drugs and sometimes potentiate them.

DMSO works on bone-related pain, such as spinal injuries, immediately. With minor neuropathy is both hands at the fingertips I tried DMSO on my left hand for a week, once a day. Sterility is critical when using DMSO but it reduced the neuropathy by 80-90% so I'm doing both hands now. DMSO is an interesting drug as is Hematoxylin but I don't expect these drugs to stop my cancer. Chemotherapy and Immunotherapy have, so far, had the best results.

That using them with Ivermectin, Mebendazole and Melatonin is enhancing is important and will extend the lives of many of us. DMSO and Hematoxylin have yet to be proven but look promising. I'll experiment with D-Hematoxylin beginning on June 2nd and if there's anything to write about, I will. CT Scan and blood draw on June 16th.

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Jeff, you know of Joe Tippen's story and his protocol? JOE TIPPENS INVENTED A TREATMENT THAT SAVED HIM AND COUNTLESS OTHERS FROM TERMINAL CANCER

https://open.substack.com/pub/robertyoho/p/joe-tippens-invented-a-treatment

Most importantly, never underestimate the power of positive thinking. Whether through biochemical pathways we don't fully understand or through its impact on treatment adherence and lifestyle choices, maintaining unwavering belief in your ability

to overcome cancer may be just as important as any medication you take.

Praying for your body to heal.

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Mark's avatar

In dismissing fenben you are making sweeping generalizations across a wide range of cancers.

Also, can I ask how you are determining the dosage rate for your D hematoxylin injections?

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Jeff Prager's avatar

See my Substack post on D-Hematoxylin which provides dosage.

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I'd like to make a pitch for the amazing work Dr. Paul Marik and Justus R Hope are doing to identify various cancer stem cell pathways and then determine (with rigorous research and the help of AI) what meds and supplements are most effective. @justusrhope here on Substack.

Because of the controversy around Ivermectin I think many people who are using it are reluctant to discuss it openly. I have a friend in Dallas, TX who was diagnosed with glioblastoma. She pursued mainstream treatment (surgery, chemo and radiation). Ultimately she was told all options were exhausted. Her sister did a great deal of research about alternative treatment and convinced my friend to take IVM and Fenbendazole. My friend has taken Ivermectin and Fenben (off and on) for about 2 yrs. Most recently she is only taking Ivermectin. Her last 3 brain scan results are NED (no evidence of disease). This is amazing!

Having gone through breast cancer myself I have done extensive research into alternative treatment for cancer. I think the case for Ivermectin is strong. There are lots of people basically treating themselves. Stanford dipped their toe in the water by publishing an observational study of 3 people taking Ivermectin to treat their cancer. God bless Joe Tippens for telling his story about using Fenbendazole to treat his small cell lung cancer. I think he has likely saved thousands of lives. If you aren't familiar with his story it is well-worth the time. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-journey-of-hope-joe-tippens-unconventional/id1523414560?i=1000654160151

I am a big fan of Dr. William Makis. I have personal experience with him and have found him to be compassionate, helpful and honorable. He too is undoubtedly responsible for saving thousands of lives.

Many blessings good people. We are all just trying to find our way.

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This is amazing to me. My sister had an oligoastrocytoma dx'ed at age 39. We both spent a lot of time on the "Big Board" for brain tumors 25 years ago. At that time, a dx of Glioblastoma meant death in a year or less. To be 2 years out is wonderful.

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1. Scott said in his tweet on Ivermectin/Fenben: "I am aware of no patient who benefited from it. Neither are you." Unless I'm misinterpreting, what is that other than pure arrogance, since some of us do know people who benefited from it?

2. But it is good to hear your more balanced and nuance take on Ivermectin/Fenben/Meben. On the one hand, it's good that the success stories are getting a lot of attention because a lot of people would die in the 20 years it otherwise would take otherwise. But we don't want to assume it to be better than it actually is. Certainly we need good clinical trials to support the anecdotal results. I also know as a person who had turbocancer that people with cancer seldom do only one thing, and often do dozens of things. And sometimes cancer patients will lie about things they are doing or not doing in order to be in a clinical trial. So clinical trials are not going to easy. A "big data" approach might work better, at least for narrowing down what to trial.

3. I follow Dr Kory and Dr Makis, as well as IMA and many others, and I hadn't even heard that Ivermectin was not working on new Covid strains, which shows that better dissemination of information is needed as more is found out. Since anecdotal information is being given to spread the word on Iver/FB/MB, those people have the same duty to provide updated statistics and nuances as they are found. (i.e. You can't just get people all excited about something by publicizing the successes, without also publicizing the limitations as they are learned.) Nobody should be inflating the efficacy, as that is worse for people with cancer than doing nothing.

4. My experience with turbocancer matches the immune suppression you discussed. Although we do so little immune system testing in general that it's almost impossible to know. Even when I knew something was wrong and was trying to get immune system tests I knew of or had had in the past when I'd been sick, it was hard to find them, they were very expensive, insurance didn't cover them, doctors didn't understand them. In fact it is criminal how little immune system testing is done on people with cancer. It wasn't under 2 years after, and due to my prodding, that I even got tested for the most basic of immune deficiencies (which it turns out I had).

But this is the problem with cancer treatment in this country. It's not at all about strengthening your immune system to do what it knows how to do. It's only about chemo/radiation and not even about making sure you're protected from damage as much as possible. I declined the 5 chemos I "should" have taken, knowing intuitively from 57 years of life that it would kill me (and being right due to the undiagnosed immune deficiency.) But I did radiation and only found afterward that I genetically am prone to radiation damage which in fact did occur. There truly is no concern for whether the person survives cancer, just whether tumor shrinks even a small amount for a short period of time.

5. On the SV40 work with the linear accelerator in the 60's, Dr Jack Kruse claims to have first hand knowledge of it. I hope to hear a more nuanced discussion some day about how much of what he saw was truly first hand and observed, vs how much was inferred.

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1) I think Scott used that phrasing for virality to attract attention (possibly because he was upset over what had happened).

2) The issue on my end is that I'm just one person so I can't cover everything that should be being discussed, so I try to periodically share the things I feel are the most important.

3) Pierre Kory separated from the IMA a year ago, so for that reason he is no longer involved in their protocols.

4) One of the biggest values in working with an integrative cancer doctor is that they go the extra mile to optimize treatments for you.

5) The problem on my end is that the dates don't match to purported chronology and the tech would not do what is claimed. I often have a very open minded attitude towards a lot of things (but never publicly share them as I'm not sure) and then gradually learn if they do or do not add up. I initially found that story very intriguing, but after I did a deep dive on SV40 I realized it didn't fit.

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2. Totally understand and appreciate you put out there what you did.

4. Unfortunately it is very, very difficult to find a good integrative oncologist. Hard enough to find one at all, let alone a good one. Many are just following a protocol they learned from someone else with no real understanding of why.

5. Good to know.

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Sue, I so totally appreciate both of your posts! I especially like your statement that "people with cancer seldom do only one thing, and often do dozens of things." My take on this is that it is dozens of things that are actually necessary to do when treating cancer. The Medical establishment, and even too many integrative physicians are too hyper focused on this or that one protocol or drug or supplement. One alternative physician once said to me that sadly that doctors too often worship at the altar of the double blind study. Including many so called functional medicine physicians. Well physiology does not work that way. When dealing with cancer, physicians and their patients must address the entire picture: i.e. Diet, Lifestyle, Supplements, Festering (often unrecognized) Infections, along with using targeted therapies with both drugs, low dose chemos, and/or supplements, etc. etc. etc. The problem I see with Scott Adams' statements is that he appears to be unwilling (or unable) to see the wisdom in what was being offered by others trying to help him. He actually says to please do not recommend any fasting or diet-related system as someone credible would have noticed if it worked. (Oh Please!) and spouts the same for supplements. (Does he include IV vitamin C in that?) He's wrong. Someone with a turbo cancer as a result of taking the Covid jab would also have to address trying to deal with the spike protein factory now within their body on top of everything else. I wish Scott the best, but do not agree with him at all. No guarantees, but doing dozens of things in all practicality, is probably the best way to go, many of which not require a physician (but obviously other treatments would.)

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Exactly! The peopleI know who have lived with stage 4 cancer for many years do all those things and more. With a randomized control trial you're only allowed to test one thing at a time. That will never work. In fact it's the combination of things that work, starving the cancer and improving the immune system from multiple directions at once.

But one thing I learned from talking to hundreds, maybe thousands of people with cancer is that people rarely get religion about this when they already have cancer. It's a hard path to take, going against standard of care when your life is on the line, and unless you have been educated much of your life about the limitations of modern medicine and the miracle of your body to heal itself if you give it help, you are not likely to go against the grain. I always said I would never do chemo, but when the time came the cancer was a pretty deadly one so I was looking for ways to make it work. But I also started reading papers, literally thousands of them. Fortunately I've been doing that for decades so I know how, and everything indicated that the standard of care was useless. Once it was clear that I understood the research and the real numbers, the doctors agreed with me.

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Reminds me of Dr.Laura Day who believed fully in her bio-medical training until she found that that could not help her when she got cancer (a large tumor forming on the outside of her chest). So only then did she go to religion and claims that a strictly "biblical diet" cured her cyst. Look her up and see. Were there contributing factors? Well, having ALL of her professional colleagues glancing sideways at her for trying something they believed was impossible tells us a lot!

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Actually, her name is Lorraine Day. Her website is:

drday.org

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Michelle's avatar

Meanwhile, many oncologists will tell cancer patients to eat anything, even sugar-laden crap…

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Charlotte's avatar

Is it still true that everyone has cancer cells in their body at any given time but your immune system (through mechanisms like p53) are constantly cleaning them up before they can cause further harm? There are so many different ways that the covid vax can harm the immune system, I think Arkmedic had one of the best articles demonstrating the various ways it could be oncogenic in his article Welcome to the Gilead. I think that article is already a couple of years old now and didn’t include the DNA contamination.

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Yes.

There's also a Bolus Theory about how the injections can damage stem cells and cause cancer.

And there's a pretty tight theory that fungi are responsible for creating cancer. Many of the supplements, repurposed drugs and even traditional cancer treatments interestingly happen to have antifungal properties.

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"there's a pretty tight theory that fungi are responsible for creating cancer. Many of the supplements, repurposed drugs and even traditional cancer treatments interestingly happen to have antifungal properties." Absolutely! I had a friend's sister who had a very aggressive form of colon cancer. She was refusing chemo, and they kept cutting out the cancer in her colon as it grew back. They gave her 6 months to live no matter what treatment she might choose. She also had a history of severe candida infections and I suggested she look into the proposed cancer-fungus connection and think about more aggressively treating her candida, as well as looking into drastically changing her diet to a no sugar whole foods one, and look into Vitamin C IV's and other supplements. (All sorts of infections can initiate cancer like viruses and Cervical cancer) She was willing to try anything, and her and her sister found a Naturopathic oncologist who helped her do these things, as well as suggesting a form of chemo that stimulated her immune system rather than doing a direct kill. She was still working with her oncologist but was not going to take any chemo that was immune damaging and with extreme side effects. . Her and her sister also decided to add FenBen to the mix. Twice now since 2023 her scans show no signs of any cancer, and her tumor blood markers are extremely low and continuing to decline. Her treatment also had to include addressing the biofims fungus and other infections often create to keep themselves safe from one's immune system. So far so good. She's already lived way passed her oncologist's predictions and they are just watching her now.

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"I am aware of no patient who benefited from it. Neither are you."

One of his histrionic hyperbolic statements, of which there are many. He got it wrong on the covid shots too. For a seemingly intelligent person Scott misses the boat a lot....lol

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Why? I think because professionals in these fields consult only their respective journals, often not comprehending that these journals are VERY controlled mechanisms. They are not 'holistic' at all, and often, as many people here expose, push only one "school of thought". Why? Because only ONE school of thought is Allowed to become "legit"!! Apparently!

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Mike H's avatar

Yep....its so bad that a lot of the doctors nicknamed Fauci "the science"...because Fauci said if you disagree with him, you disagree with science....(facepalm)

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Michelle's avatar

“But this is the problem with cancer treatment in this country. It's not at all about strengthening your immune system to do what it knows how to do. “

Agreed! Chemo knocks out the immune system…

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I am profoundly sorry for the deep suffering Scott is enduring. I agree wholeheartedly, volunteer ending one's life should be offered to those with unbearable, non-repairable illness. Many do not understand the depth of certain pain. May God save his soul.

Having expressed the above, i do strongly believe those who pushed the vax so hard should, must be held accountable for the unparalleled suffering they caused - all to merely dominate the political scene. May they rot in Hell.

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Thanks to your writings I was finally able to convince my mom to stop getting the covid boosters. She had had upwards of 10 boosters. I tried to get her to not take them for years but she was trapped in the mass schycosis that was going around. She has been suffering major cognitive decline and I knew it had to be the vaccine. I hope she recovers now that she won't be getting any more boosters. I'll never forgive our government and pharmaceutical industrial complex for what they did to our country

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My friend got every booster and suffered serious cognitive decline. She finally went to a neurologist who put her on medication and, later I found, magnesium. Magnesium threonate is clinically studied to improve brain function, making it up to 9 years younger on a scale. It is available at life extension dot com. Studies show the calcium to magnesium ratio should be about 2:1. Too much or too little magnesium is bad for the brain.

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Thanks so much for that suggestion. I've looking for what supplements might help her. My mom has 2 sisters, one of them is her non identical twin. My mom and one of her sisters had been getting booster as soon as it was recommended by the cdc since they were rolled out years ago. Both of them have been suffering memory loss while my mothers twin who never had a single covid shot is not having any memory problems at all.

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Low dose lithium also helps the brain. Life Extension has a series of magazine articles and protocols on the brain, dementia, and so on. They are referenced and periodically reviewed to ensure they are still medically accurate. The articles are free, you don't have to purchase from them or join.

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May 24Edited

Scott Adams posted on Twitter within the last day or so that he has been offered a new treatment that is supposed to give him a 0-30% chance of survival.

I understand a lot of the problem with no MAHA people proposing an outright ban on the Covid vaxes is because Trump still doesn't want to hear about it. Pierre Kory said that Trump's kids know about the dangers but they can't even get through to him.

The other thing that I wonder about is that sometime during the Covid insanity there was a report that the vaxes were manufactured years before the plandemic and it would have been impossible to have so many of them available if the manufacturing had started as late as 2020. If that is true, did Warp Speed even do anything?

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The basic platform for making them (which could be tailored to any antigen) was developed prior to the pandemic, but the specific COVID vaccines themselves were not.

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May 24Edited

That was not what I read at the time. There were photos of vaccine bottles with dates earlier than 2020. Of course, that could have been photoshopped.

But does the math work out if the shots were manufactured later? How many plants were there and how long does it take to even bottle the stuff, let alone manufacture it?

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Gilgamech's avatar

The answers to your questions are in MWD’s articles but you would have to put in the time to read them. Quick takes are easy but often wrong, or, at best, simplifications. MWD gave you the right answer here.

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May 25Edited

With all due respect to MWD, nobody's got all the answers about how the Covid disaster was planned and carried out and who was responsible, going back to Drosden's PCR test. There's no need to be smug.

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I’m not being “smug”. Just suggesting you read.

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May 25Edited

The way you write your suggestions comes across a bit like an annoying 4th grader.

Considering that the smoke still hasn't cleared about Covid and that nobody important wants to talk about it (probably because Gates and the WHO want to run the same playbook again), I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if somebody manufactured some of the "vaccines" early, kept them in a warehouse and brought them out later. They certainly had practiced everything else early, such as the "SPARS pandemic". There's no certainty here.

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Michelle's avatar

I remember seeing photo evidence you describe as well.

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Vaccine vials were expired on arrival.

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Michelle's avatar

Yes, they extended out the expiration dates a couple times.

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It is very likely that Trump's kids (the first 3) know about the dangers because of how their mother Ivana suddenly and tragically died. It was first reported that she died of cardiac arrest "with no indication that she fell", and THEN the media changed their story claiming that she died of a "fall".

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/ivana-trump-first-wife-of-former-president-donald-trump-dies-at-73/

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My guess is that he was offered Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong's bio shield that is already in Phase III clinical trials and already available for bladder cancer.

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Michelle's avatar

I suspected this as well.

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Operation Warp Speed was a wake up call to the wise who realised one does not introduce a vaccine without 10-15 years of trials. The rapid vaccine rollout was the trail and results are still coming in.

Ultimately it was all designed to expose to the world the complete fraud of vaccination.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/operation-warp-speed-why-did-it-happen?utm_source=publication-search

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Thank you AMD for this thorough truthful analysis of what is being used as alternatives for the current cancer treatments. I lost two brothers within 2 years and 3 days of each other. The first one gave up on treatment early on. Lung and Kidney. The second one had colon cancer with 1-2 feet of colon at least removed. He did everything the oncologist recommended. It never went to another organ as it usually does. One or two lymph node involvement-I think one in the abdomen and one near the lung but not an organ involvement. His pain was horrible. One year remission. It started in 2017-2023. As a retired RN, I personally could not understand why the chemotherapy quit working. Of course, all that you have described we had not heard of at the time. He went to Heaven 2 years ago yesterday morning. I took care of him and helped him get everything in order from May 1-4. Then hospice stepped in to help me the rest of the time. I do wish we had known about these alternatives just to try them. I so appreciate your honesty about the studies so far. A much more common sense and medical approach to one of the worst diseases in a person’s life. Thank you! Closer to 80 than 70! By the way, I wish everyone could see my 99 year old Mom who first had rectal/colon cancer 27 years this coming August! She is declining but a miracle! She has dementia (11 years) but still knows us!

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Dr. Makis replied to him with a discussion that when one alternate approach fails that different dose regimes of the same combo or mebendazole at different doses may work. But don't give up after try with one combo. He concluded that his overall success rate is about 75%

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Delred's avatar

I’m starting to believe Maki’s is full of shit.

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I can assure you, Dr. Makis is NOT full of shit. Read my post above. My dearest friend is now cancer-free of Stage 4 ovarian after just 3 months, much to the shock of her conventional oncologists, because of his steady guidance. He encouraged her to take the chemo along with the other protocols including his. I went for an annual blood draw, earlier this year, and the nurse that drew my blood was an oncology nurse for 15 years and told me that only her patients that did chemo AND alternative were the patients that survived long term. My friend was struggling with whether to do chemo after her diagnosis and once I told her that she decided to go for it. Divine intervention does not begin to describe what just happened for her and I pray that more people are blessed in just the same way.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

It’s interesting that you said your sister got better after 3 months. Dr. Makis said that it usually takes at least three months, and that he was advising Scott Adams for only about a month and a half before Adams quit.

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Hi Mary,

She is a very dear friend not my sister. She has been in the holistic field for animals for several decades so she knows and understands the power of alternative care. She was able to hit the bricks running once she got her diagnosis. Her positive results have stunned her conventional oncologists because they rarely, if ever, have someone take a hold of their own health like she did. And she was never afraid and never wavered. She feels she had some divine intervention because she was able to gather a powerful combination of modalities and help that resulted in her ability to shake the cancer so quickly. It is a story that has should give people great hope.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Makis has very aggressive self-promotion and that is a red flag for me.

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He does come across that way, but he has been close to losing everything, facing a Goliath that is way more powerful than he is, and I don’t think he is a Christian. Can you imagine how desperate you might feel if rich and powerful people came after you? That’s why I give him grace and pray for him, even though his communications sometimes are unappealing. He could be fighting for his life, and not just figuratively.

Another thought, he could be mildly autistic, socially-not-adept. I am that way, though I get by pretty well after years of practice. And my regular doctor is that way, too.

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Fair point about Makis. I do definitely cut Scott Adams a lot of slack since he is fighting for his life and the prospects are not good.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

I have read the first 90 comments. It is obvious that there is a preponderance of comments by people living in the USA/Canada.

I am by training a civil engineer. Later, I studied Operations Research. I am 74. I never take vaccines. I have not seen a doctor for any organic problem for over 50 years. I take no medications. I eat sensibly. I hardly drink alcohol - a beer per week perhaps. My blood pressure was 123/69 58 when last measured in a pharmacy 4 years ago. My weight is the same as 50 years ago - 75 kg (165 lb)

Here are some facts that our host seems to have neglected:

1- No one has ever isolated any virus. The chicanery that is called virology uses lies to get its funds. Since there are no viruses, they cannot cause disease.

2- All attempts to transmit "infectious diseases" have failed. Injecting spinal fluid into the brains of monkeys to "prove" the transmission of "rabies" is not science. It is fraud. The British tried for 43 years to transmit the common cold and their efforts failed.

3- All vaccines with no exception are toxic. The public has been led to believe that a small amount of poison is good for us. This concept is so outrageous to any clear-thinking person. Diseases such as "polio" disappeared before the arrival of a vaccine. Today, doctors call what used to be called polio other things such as Accute Flaccid Myelitis, Transverse Myelitis and Guillain–Barré syndrome. They moved the goal posts. The medical profession is dishonest. Almost all doctors are complicit.

4- In the gigantic continent of Africa there was no Covid. Except in "medically-advanced" South Africa. I can only conclude that the real disease of "Covid" was caused by a biological poison that was spread by touch, water, food, air or EMF.

When those 3 gigantic buildings in New York were blown up, I immediately realised that the official story was a nonsense. Many thousands of tons of explosives were in the buildings. I was overcome with shame when almost no engineers stepped forward to call out the fraud. The same is true for allopathic medicine. Almost no doctors will step out and call out the fraud.

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Cathleen's avatar

BRAVO Alfred! I agree with all your points. I don't know if muslim countries were exposed to this biological poison? (only NATO countries?) I know Dubai never was. Iraq? Iran? Oman? Yemen? UAE? Kuwait? Saudi Arabia? Anyone knows?

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

I am in Egypt. I can emphatically say that there was no Covid in Egypt and that almost no one took the toxic injections.

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Cathleen's avatar

Good to know that. I was in Egypt in May of 2016, just after that Egypt Air flight from Paris to Cairo blew up (and we flew on that airline). There were no tourists and we had the ancient sites to ourselves. Beautiful country, lovely people who always went out of their way to help us.

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Al's avatar

Actually, many engineers did call out the fraud: https://www.ae911truth.org/

I recently purchased a book called "Where Did the Towers Go?" by Judy Wood. Interesting read that discusses the unusual lack of "wreckage" after the buildings collapsed. Her thesis is that they were "powderized" via DEW. As I say, it's an interesting read, but of course theoretical. I've watched the collapse videos; everyone can see the detonations... As for molten steel, I don't know... CAN jet-fuel combustion be accelerated and super-heated to melt steel, as in a forge? I just don't know.

Another interesting bit of work is a novel called "Building Seven" by Michael Burns, I think. Yes, it's a novel, but there's some interesting "history" of that day in there as well...

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But how numerous were these "many engineers". They were fewer than 1% of the professional engineers who watched the videos. Almost none of the professors of structural engineering.

It is not because they are stupid and that they are not familiar with "Newton's Laws of Motions". It is just that they are afraid of being ridiculed by their wives and the media. Afraid of losing their jobs - just like for the doctors and vaccines.

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I don't agree that "almost all doctors are complicit". I see them as more of a chain-of-command structure, like soldiers or police. They trust their structure, rigidly (some of the rigidity comes via training, i.e. making examples of dissenters). And there is a culture surrounding them that coerces that trust. Doctors have not been educated to think critically except towards "schools of thought" outside of their own (or the then prevailing 'schoool'). They are taught to "trust the science" as presented in their Big Pharma-heavy (in this era) journals. Look at other eras, say 1888's Dr.John H Kellogg, and you see how ALL doctors believed and went along with things like "self abuse". In other times, the reigning belief centered on "blood letting" and so on and so forth.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

I quite agree with you. They have been "conditioned" - i.e. brainwashed.

But that brings up the question of why they are moronic and incapable of critical thinking. It only takes a few minutes to determine that "rabies" was "proven" by injecting the spinal fluid of "contaminated" animals into the brains of monkeys. The monkeys died and that was the "proof" that "rabies" is "transmissible".

Myself, I think that anyone who went along with such a "proof" is a moron who should not be offering toxic chemicals to sick people.

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Chaz's avatar

Well, I think the reason people (seemingly not like you or me) appear moronic and don't come in to "higher" education with more critical thinking skills is due to the wider culture of conformity and naive trust of Authority.

Read critics of our compulsory school system like John Taylor Gatto, John Holt, etc. Then "connect the dots".

They all came out of Big Pharma participating in the 'Rollback' game (Rolling back all the democratic gains of the 1960s and 70s, says Chomsky; he outlines the big picture and i see how Big Pharma fits snugly). Big Pharma was brought (with much funding going to whichever school utilized its ideology) into the schools (starting in the 1970s, I think), touting, first, MBD (Minimal Brain Dysfunction). All incrementally, notice. Next was LD (Learning Disabilities), then ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) and ADHD (just add 'hyperactivity'), and finally ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder : basically, ANY kid who cannot articulate their rebellion from so-called authority is now seen, professionally, as having a DISORDER!!!

These things get seeded all while we're distracted with much more superficial things, and next thing you know, the kids have grown up identifying with their "disorder" and they become a sort of "grass roots" organized defender of Brave New World. You can see it clearly with all the ADHD and so-called "mental illness" identities, doing their Duty to their Friendly (TM) Psychiatrist to SQUELCH all challenge. How convenient.

Out with the old church, in with the New.

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Mark's avatar

I think it's pretty clear that rabies is real when a deranged animal bites another one and then that animal suffers a similar fate. Same with when people get bitten.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

These "rabies" cases occur months or years after a person has been bitten by an animal. But in that time, any number of other things could have caused the sickness.

In the USA - 330 million people - fewer than 10 "rabies" cases are reported yearly. However, there are millions of dog and other animal bites.

The "rabies" virus has never been isolated. A "vaccinated" person can get rabies.

If you still cannot see the obvious scam at work, I cannot help you.

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Mark's avatar

Right, but these "other things" serm to only happen to the people bitten by the rabid animal whose psychotic behavior seems to magically transfer to the bitten animal person weeks/months/years later.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

There are a large number of diseases with similar symptoms to rabies. Here is from AI

Diseases with symptoms similar to rabies typically involve neurological or infectious conditions that cause fever, confusion, agitation, paralysis, or abnormal behavior. Rabies symptoms initially resemble flu-like illness (fever, headache, nausea) and later progress to severe neurological signs such as agitation, hallucinations, difficulty swallowing, hydrophobia (fear of water), paralysis, and coma[1][2][5][10].

Diseases that may present with similar symptoms include:

- **Canine Distemper in animals**: This viral disease shows symptoms like convulsions, tremors, chewing fits, aggression, paralysis, stupor, and coma, which can resemble rabies in animals[7].

- **Other zoonotic infections**: Some zoonotic diseases transmitted from animals to humans may cause fever, neurological symptoms, or systemic illness, though not identical to rabies. Examples include psittacosis, blastomycosis, and cat scratch disease, which may have overlapping early symptoms like fever and malaise but differ in progression and specific neurological signs[3][9].

- **Neurological infections causing encephalitis**: Various viral encephalitides (e.g., herpes simplex virus encephalitis, arboviral encephalitis) can cause fever, confusion, agitation, seizures, and paralysis, resembling rabies' neurological phase[2].

- **Serotonin syndrome–like presentations**: Rarely, rabies can mimic serotonin syndrome with tremor, hypertonia, and myoclonus, which are also seen in other neurological or toxic-metabolic conditions[8].

- **Paralytic forms of rabies vs. other causes of paralysis**: Paralytic rabies can be confused with other causes of progressive paralysis such as Guillain-Barré syndrome or poliomyelitis, especially when hydrophobia is absent[2][10].

In summary, diseases that share symptoms with rabies include certain viral encephalitides, neurological infections, and animal diseases like distemper, which can present with fever, neurological dysfunction, paralysis, and behavioral changes. Definitive diagnosis requires laboratory testing, especially brain tissue examination in animals or specific viral tests in humans[7][10].

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Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share

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Baldmichael's avatar

Well said.

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Mary Fisher's avatar

What about sexually transmitted diseases, the stomach flu and smallpox? I read years ago that traders rubbed blankets over smallpox sores and sold them to Native Americans who then contracted it. Aside from pictures of viruses, there is definitely something that is contagious. Plagues are even mentioned in the Bible. Very interesting to consider, but like flat-earthers and fake moon landing theorists, you are ignoring a lot of things.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

All of it is fiction. They lie about the past to control the present and plan the future.

𝗦𝗮𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗰 "𝗦𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲": 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗛𝗼𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗳𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝘁𝗵 - 𝗦𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗽𝗼𝘅 𝗩𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝘂𝗳𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 (𝗨𝗻𝘁𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗛𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆)

https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/satanic-science-the-horrifying-truth

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Mark's avatar

How does a sickness spread through a household if there is no infectious agent?

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

There are any number of possible causes - because they all live in the same place, eat the same food, drink the same water, breath the same air and are exposed to the same EMF radiation. Why does it have to be a "virus" that has never been isolated let alone proven to cause disease?

The British tried for 43 years in a dedicated research centre to transmit the common cold - without success

𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗻 𝗖𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗨𝗻𝗶𝘁

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Cold_Unit

In one interesting experiment, they injected saline solution into their trial subjects. They told them that they had been given the cold virus. The next day, all the subjects had a cold.

A cold is when the body is cleaning itself. Like going to the toilet.

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Mark's avatar

And if some people in that household don't get sick because for whatever reason their immune system successfully fought off the virys, they have no symptoms. Interesting how this could be the case if all people are exposed to the same environmental conditions yet there is no range of symptoms between people. It's like they either get all the symptoms, or none.

In late 2020 I went to an area of the city where the chief medical doctor was warning people to stay away from due to Covid circulating. Then I went home to our rural area with no further contact with people except my mom. Sure enough, 5 days after going in the store, I came down with unique symptoms I've never had before - exactly in line with what everyone was describing for Covid. I took IVM and within 12 hours it was gone. I did develop long covid for months afterwards. Kinda interesting. You have to go to extrene logical gymnastics to deny that kind of experience.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

Suggested reading. Both Baileys are doctors who worked out it was all a scam. They have plenty of videos on Rumble.com

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗣𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗰: 𝗔𝗻 𝗔𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗱𝗼𝘁𝗲 𝗧𝗼 𝗠𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗧𝘆𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗻𝘆

https://www.amazon.com/Final-Pandemic-Antidote-Medical-Tyranny/dp/0473701995/

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

Sounds like you believed you would "catch" Covid and that was enough for your body to start expelling toxins. The role of the brain in all of this is grossly underestimated.

During the Covid panic, plenty of people were falling ill after watching the TV.

In the isolated Antarctic winter, after months of healthy living together, one of them "catches a cold" and others fall for it soon after. 😊

Everything doctors believe is bogus. They are all either charlatans or fools.

Ever noticed how obese patients go to an obese doctor to ask for advice as to how to lose weight? 😊

90% of people are like sheep with no critical facilities.

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Mouzer's avatar

I've seen actual pictures of various viruses taken by highly sensitive X-ray crystallography and electron microscopy. You maintain everyone who has done these is a liar? Puleeze.

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Alfred Nassim's avatar

"I've seen actual pictures"

If similar samples are taken from healthy people and the same processes undertaken that lead to an electron microscope photo, you will find identical particles in the healthy sample. These objects are detritus of cells or proteins. Not viruses.

That is why none of this research is carried out against a healthy sample. It is a "Three-card monte". And they all know it. 😊

In the case of new medicines these are tested against placebos. But this is not done for vaccines because they all know that it is a scam. The healthy people would fall ill or die less often. Try to find an Amish child with Autism!

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Mouzer's avatar

I've heard all that before and read a great deal on the subject. The problem with the "there is no virus notion" is, having read so many of the arguments and ideas, it has no positive or practical application, it's all negative arguments. As for the Amish, I actually met a child with issues. Funny you should bring them up.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

The point of confusion on this is that some viruses resemble exosomes from dead cells killed by electron microscopy, so that is used to argue all viruses are actually exosomes, but this ignores that:

•Certain viruses look very unique (ie. bacteriophages or ebola).

•At least one virus is large enough to see with an optical microscope.

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Baldmichael's avatar

"...no positive or practical application"??? Puleeze! The application is that detritus of cells or proteins does not cause disease per se but must be removed as any household watse must be in a home.

Therefore we must ensure we assist our bodies as necessary to clear out the waste by drinking sufficient and eating well etc.

As mainstream virolgy is bollux we don't need to be scared of what those with a vested interest want us to believe, but instead concentrate on eliminating the real toxic threats.

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Mouzer's avatar

Whatever dude.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Why be so dismissive? It is the truth. From other comments you make you are clearly aware of the chemical balance our bodies need to maintain, as well as the effects emotional stresses have on us.

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Primum non nocere's avatar

Until the people involved in the creation and distribution of the mRNA gene therapy are arrested, given trials, convicted and sentenced to the maximum, this is a just documentation of the generational level collateral damage of yet another Deep State massive revenue genetating medico-industrial complex psyop created and distributed by the US govt. Without that, the plandemic only

provides for well intended substacks but does nothing to prevent history from repeating.

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pimaCanyon's avatar

Make Drawing and Quartering Great Again!

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IronHandAstarte's avatar

Hammurabi highway

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Mary Fisher's avatar

Make logic and justice great again!

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Chiadrum's avatar

Halftime of the Super Bowl would be an appropriate venue for that activity

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