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Igor Chudov's avatar

I love this article. I have several virus deniers on my substack. While I do not agree with them, they are my valued readers with interesting thoughts on various matters. I do challenge them gently from time to time.

While I do think that virus denial is a mistaken belief, I am pretty certain that I unknowingly hold some other mistaken beliefs, so I just let them say whatever they want and I sometimes make comments to express why I do not agree with them.

Overall, the belief in virus denial is not really a big societal problem, unlike, say, belief that covid vaccine is safe and effective.

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Roman Bystrianyk's avatar

I believe it’s important to note that if there is or isn’t a microbe isn’t as important to understand that deaths from every so-called infectious disease declined by massive amounts before any vaccine or significant medical intervention. This began in the late 1800s into the mid-1900s. Measles deaths were down 98% to almost 100%. Whooping cough deaths were down 92% to 100%. Scarlet fever deaths (a bigger killer than the previously mentioned two) were down 100% without a vaccine and well before penicillin was being used. Flu/pneumonia deaths were down 90% before vaccination began in the 1970s. Yet, after 40 years of vaccination, the death rate remains the same as when it started. Smallpox persisted and killed many for 70+ years after a vaccine was available and only declined in deaths during the same time frame. Smallpox went from killing 1 in 5 to a near zero fatality rate often being confused with chickenpox.

Why? The terrain (to use that term) changed radically across societies and individuals. Sanitation, nutritious non-rotting food, labor/child labor laws, electricity, plumbing, transportation, dreadful pollution, etc., were what made the difference. So by the 1950s, infectious diseases were not considered much of a problem. Yet, today this – the greatest health revolution in human history – remains largely forgotten and replaced with the idea of medical intervention to solve all our problems while mostly ignoring the true nature of disease – the health of ourselves and societies.

Please check out all the charts with references that show the massive declines in deaths from diseases before vaccinations.https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images

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