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Jeannine Decious's avatar

My mom had six kids, four c-section. First was placenta previa, second was premature birth, third and fourth full term scheduled. No issues, all grew into healthy adults. Granddaughter recently born emergency c-section due to heart rate drop. So far no issues.

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Jeannine Decious's avatar

I wasn’t a c-Section baby. I was natural. None of mine were either. None of my sisters were (c-section baby), but we both have daughters that have issues getting pregnant. Only one each. Our others no issues.

My one C-section grandbaby, we believe wasn’t ready to come into the world. The doc was going to be gone and insisted a few days before she left that they induce my daughter. Three days of forced labor w/o success, a baby that ended up with heart rate issues = c-section. And no that doctor is no longer being seen.

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Sebrina Carter's avatar

Good for her. A lot of us are not so lucky. This article was VERY confirming for me and my son. It proves not enough is being done to educate expectant mothers!

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MJ's avatar

Maybe you should have issues...

Statistically the American medical profession decided on a plan of 'childbirth treatment' that MAKES 32% of BABIES in the US system control DEFINITELY NEEDING a C-SECTION in order to be birthed successfully... interesting...

BUT IF the PREGNANT MOMMAS had FOLLOWED the PROTOCOL advised by one NC country doctor, THEN that PERCENT of C-Sections was ZERO...

That doctor published his own office data -- 323 CONSECUTIVE CASES in his practice records, FOLLOWING the KLENNER PROTOCOL and if those women had instead followed the rest of the MDs' ideas OVER A HUNDRED would have required the damning C--SECTION...

PLUS

The Klenner protocol BABIES HAD NO BIRTH DEFECTS --unlike the TEN that would have occurred if Klenners 323 cases had followed the AMERICAN MEDICAL STANDARDS of PRACTICE...

PLUS BETTER NEWS even...

NONE of the Klenner-practicing mommas LOST THEIR BABIES in MISCARRIAGES... compared to the 50 of the 323 who would have lost their babies in miscarriages...

PLUS EVEN BETTER NEWS...

NO POSTPARTEM HEMORRHAGES for the 323 Klenner protocol mommas...

AND

since Klenner published his data for all to see in about 1972...

---in a nutrition journal because the protocol was

HIGH-DIVIDED-DOSING with Vit C besides the usual vitamins---

then WHY DO OBSTETRICIANS effectively PROHIBIT PREGNANT PATIENTS from such use of C???

specifically 5,000mg per day in 1st TRIMESTER, then 10,000mg per day in 2nd TRIMESTER, and

15,000mg per day in 3rd TRIMESTER... with possibly an IV-C at delivery for some...

Why C?

Because those BABIES [like all humans] are MOSTLY COLLAGEN of the non-water portion of baby..

AND those MOMMAS are also building more collagen of their own to accommodate CARRYING *and* DELIVERY STRETCHING...

AND every collagen molecule being built requires MULTIPLE [as in MANY] molecules of vitC to properly form the collagen with its twisted-for-strength structure..

AND every such C molecule used is DESTROYED in the PROCESS... unlike the recycling processing involved in 'anti-oxidizing' C usage..

AND...

if you're worried or challenged about adapting to some existing problem in momma's previous history, here's how adaptable this can work, http://www.doctoryourself.com/preg_c.html

Join a group doing Klenner's protocol.. and escape the disaster percentages.... TTYL

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Jeannine Decious's avatar

Don’t know why you’re posting this on me. My mom is a great grandma, I’m a grandma. Definitely not having any more kids. Mine were all natural. Mom’s first two C-Sections saved the babies and her lives, the other two were because they didn’t do VBAC in the early 80s. My granddaughter was born C-section because she was at risk. We don’t take these as a fly by in our family, it’s a last resort.

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Deb.Butler's avatar

The reason you believe those c-sections were the only option for the health of the baby, is because the “doctor” said so. The “doctor” was hearing “Cha-Ching”

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Jeannine Decious's avatar

Well the first one if wasn’t done mom and baby would have died, in the 70’s they didn’t do vbac and the second was extremely premature, then the third and fourth were because they didn’t do vbac. Daughters was because baby’s heart rate kept dropping. I was there and yes it was needed.

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Deb.Butler's avatar

I was born in 1952. Everyone was having a lot of children. Seven in my family. I never heard of ANYONE having a c-section until I was in my 20’s. Now 32% of births are by c-section? Something is not quite adding up!

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Jeannine Decious's avatar

A lot of women now opt for them. They think it’s better than a vaginal birth. I’ll take vaginal birth all day long vs surgery. They did do them back in the day but rare. More deaths then.

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MJ's avatar

You and your daughter and etc should have issues BECAUSE the fact that THEIR BABIES GOT into TROUBLE MEANS those BABIES were DENIED a nutrient that led to the trouble...

AND

that kind of start in life has ''consequences''... even see-able just looking across the cribs in the ward.. The nurses at the hospital where Klenner practiced said that they could visually identify WHICH WERE THE ''C-BABIES''... bright, alert and delightfilled...

AND

Among Klenner's cases was a set of QUADS... and two of the 323 mommas had heart conditions and had been told that getting pregnant would be the death of them...

Those are insignificant, eh?

ttys

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John Michaels's avatar

I’m sorry but I’m having trouble identifying your stance. Are you advocating for c-sections or not?

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MJ's avatar

?? C-sections are a sign of failure of the nutritional support for Momma and baby....

B/C

vitC is crucial to formation of collagen .... AND... we are nearly 90% collagen once you subtract the water from the calculation... we're 60% water.....

So inadequate collagen formation results in flawed parts of baby, ditto for parts of ''expanded momma'' needed for carrying and stretching to deliver....

So the existence of a ''need'' for a c-section means the momma and baby were robbed...

Is that clear enough...? TTYL

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John Michaels's avatar

What is the best source to obtain your vitamin c through? What else is crucial in the formation of collagen? Thanks.

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Jeannine Decious's avatar

So you’re saying placenta previa is a mothers failure?? And we pounded Vit C like candy growing up (as a family) so I seriously doubt that was an issue. We were a healthy family, healthy life style, diet, etc. Things happen out of our control.

I do appreciate you sharing the protocol though as I’ve never heard of it and now will look into it.

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Mary Suddath's avatar

I tried to send this article via email to my daughter. Xfinity sent me a notice that it had questionable content and therefore, they would not let me send it? Wow!!!

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Tilly's avatar

Time to change providers.

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Free Mind Paradigm's avatar

I highly doubt that this is an isolated incident either. There was a website called Kennedy Censored that was popular during RFK's presidential campaign. It was essentially a compilation of times when social media platforms and other communication services (including email) censored anything pro-MAHA.

On Kennedy Censored, there were a couple screenshots of people being unable to share Midwestern Doctor articles, as if this website were on a blacklist. This is actually how I found out about A Midwestern Doctor in the first place, as I wanted to see why it got censored so much.

I'm just grateful that we live in a time period where we have free speech platforms like Substack and X and RFK Jr. is in the HHS. Facebook loosened their moderation policies a few months ago and hopefully Xfinity will follow along.

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Sherry 1's avatar

XFinity is spooky.

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Joner's avatar

Mary that is censorship and I never guessed that Xfinity would do that to you. Who are they to withhold important knowledge!

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

I think you left out another risk: any abdominal surgery risks bowel obstruction down the road, even years and decades down the road.

I suffered several bowel obstructions, one that led to serious surgery to save my life, and the surgeons told me it was due to abdominal surgery (once to repair my ruptured uterus and subsequently, a C-section). The C-section was warranted, but having gone through the bowel obstructions, I would say someone would have to be quite unwise to have one for a trivial reason, when other remedies are available.

We need experienced *midwives* and not treat every birth as an obstetrical matter.

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J. Harris's avatar

Leila, your comment just connected some dots for me with issues I’ve been having with my bowels. I never thought of the C-section I had nearly 20 years ago could be a possible cause. Ugh. I don’t remember reading about that in the informed consent.

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

Bowel obstruction is a particular condition involving in some cases old scar tissue forming and dissolving (hopefully, not always) around and between the intestines. It can be adhesions or cinctures. You should look it up. I don't know what the remedy is but I will say it seems to have ceased being a problem since I went through menopause.

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Faye Lovell's avatar

I had a c-section in 2015, not by choice, and then October 2024 had emergency surgery for a complete small bowel obstruction. Doctor said is was probably caused by C-section

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Leila Marie Lawler's avatar

I think this risk is not disclosed.

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Yoganana's avatar

As a childbirth educator, doula, RN, I have been at many births in a variety of settings: home, birth center and hospital. The most peaceful and smooth ones were with midwives. Ironically, my daughter and I both had sections due to pre eclampsia. She labored long and hard until baby was in distress. Mine was due to transverse position. There was quite a bit of post op pain and anesthesia effects which could have interfered with bonding. However, we were both determined and strong and had great post partum outcomes. But I had quite a few clients whom I watched go down the slippery slope of one intervention leading to another until the

Inevitable section. These were usually in one of the “high level” hospitals with MDs, not midwives I also

Witnessed new moms’ bonding difficulties post section. In our

Birthing professional community, we advocated strongly for the

Baby friendly and mother friendly childbirth initiatives. There is a wealth of knowledge out there, including how to encourage proper positioning of baby prior to birth.

For any woman aspiring to a non medicalized

Birth, I recommend a midwifery practice, a doula, and a birthing tub!

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Jen Koenig's avatar

Question: Why a birthing tub? I realize it's soothing for the mother, but no human anywhere is born underwater unless part of this practice. For a "natural" birth this seems very un-natural.

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weeshrivers's avatar

A birthing tub can be used during labor as a natural pain reliever- warm water does wonders. A mother can deliver in the tub if she is comfortable or get out and deliver on a bed, etc. If born in the tub, the baby is lifted up out of the water immediately- Baby will begin breathing as soon as their face meets the air. (This is true of all births.). The water-birthing mother is not loading her baby up with pain relief through an epidural which is as natural as it gets.

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Demonhype's avatar

Yeah, I figured,the baby is already technically in water (liquid) and has been the whole pregnancy, I'd think giving birth in a tub like that just extends that whole in-liquid experience for a minute.

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Jen Koenig's avatar

Thanks for the explanation. This makes sense. Although an epidural is local, so only trace amounts get to the baby, it's nice to not have to have that procedure with the small risks it entails.

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Light Love and Truth's avatar

Just throwing this out there: babies CAN aspirate in a water birth. I've cared for several who needed NICU care for aspiration pneumonia/respiratory failure. We also had an odd and tragic case of a baby hemorrhaging (died) after a traumatic avulsion of the umbilical cord. The cord was very short--bringing the baby up out of the water (not well visualized) simply put too much tension on the cord.

Many women do choose water births, and statistically, most babies are probably fine. I think the safest option is to labor in the tub, then leave when it's time to push. Win-win!

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Yes. It’s better to do a home birth at home alone then to get anywhere near a doctor with a knife when you are pregnant.

After all, the entire history of the human race until about 100 years ago was always Home birth.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

I’m an OB doctor and I once walked into an 1860s graveyard to see old Ebenezers stone surrounded by two young wives and day old infants, and the third wife must’ve had better luck giving birth, as she made it out of her 20s. That’s the testament to modern OB care.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Homebirth is far superior to the MD interventions. MDs have proven they are untrustworthy, in most cases they are working for the money, for their bosses, the hospitals.

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Patricia Bonis's avatar

Thank you for the dose of reality. People in this thread are delusional, and I highly doubt that the death rate for childbirth is higher now than 100 years ago. Statistics can be easily manipulated and people can be easily mislead. I personally had three c section births and I wouldn’t do it any other way. For some reason, American society puts pressure women’s birthing choices and many women fall for it. My body my choice. Remember those words?

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Nancy's avatar

Yes, as much as c- sections have issues modern medical care as saved many lives. If I had had home births 2 of my children wouldn't have made it and I myself might possibly have died. A balanced view of this subject is important.

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Richard Bartholomew's avatar

Yes, and I think this is why it is important not to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" when it comes to deciding for or against modern medical interventions. Sometimes, C-sections are necessary, the best evidence for which are the infant and mother mortality rates of the past. The doctors told me plainly that our son and possibly my wife as well would have died had they not finally given up on vaginal delivery and delivered him via C-section. This happened at a hospital that specializes in natural birthing and utilizes C-sections only as a last resort.

Knowing how best to help my son recoup what was lost by missing out on a vaginal birth would be very helpful.

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Yoganana's avatar

Well I wouldn't suggest doing it alone, even if there are no medical needs, women need support during labor, and it is always good to have a plan B in case of complications. Good preparation, prenatal care (minus the obligatory ultra sounds or vaccinations!) and education will go a long way to creating a safer birth. Interestingly, when doctors started doing deliveries in hospital in the early 20th century, puerperal fever rates went up. Comparing midwifery assisted births to doctor births, it was clear the doctors were doing something wrong and the midwives right. it turns out the docs were not washing their hands when entering the birthing room after treating their medical and surgical patients. Women CAN die in Labor, and there can be serious birth injuries, including fetal demise. Not every woman is a good candidate for home birth. But many of these so called modern interventions in the name of science ( or for convenience) are not only unnecessary but do not lead to better outcomes.

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Mary Eve's avatar

My daughter had her fourth child at home with three midwives in attendance - two very experienced ones and one getting her hours in to become certified. There ended up being five women sitting in the darkened living room, watching Call the Midwife on TV, eating chile and cornbread, talking and laughing…my daughter walking, sitting, showering, in and out up and down as day turned to night…her husband and three other kids slept…what a beautiful picture of women supporting women it was! Labor and birth were AMAZING - so peaceful. Her baby girl was born in the warm water, then immediately scooped up onto her mother…I got to cut the cord! A few hours later the midwives and photog left, and my daughter and sat admiring her new baby and snacking…I finally went home, she went to bed…what an incredible experience all the way around.

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Tara Townsend's avatar

Both my children were c sections. Breech presentation related to a septum in my uterus. They are 17 and 20. And doing well.

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Sebrina Carter's avatar

Good for you. A lot of us are not so lucky…I found this information very confirming and more education needs to be done for expectant mothers!

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BPOP's avatar
Apr 30Edited

Late in the article, you imply that some vaccines could have a benefit.

What vaccine is efficacious in anything except poisoning the recipient?

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

See that article. Some are much worse than others.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

All vaccines are worthless.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Vaccines benefit big pharma only, the rest is smoke and mirrors.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Yes! Smoke and mirrors and the emperor has no clothes.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No vaccine has ever worked.

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Free Mind Paradigm's avatar

Vaccines can be really great as therapeutics. For example, if a rabid animal bites you, a rabies shot will save your life. The vaccine still has side effects, but the overall benefit of the vaccine far outweighs the risks of rabies.

The MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine is also very justifiable in many cases. In countries with very poor health infanstructure, diseases like measles are extremely contagious and can be pretty deadly as well. There is still a risk of side effects but it as not as big as the risk of measles complications (in most people), especially during outbreaks or in sub-Saharan Africa.

On the other hand, the COVID vaccine is absolutely unnecessary for healthy young people and the vaccine is much deadlier than COVID in this demographic. Other vaccines like HPV have horrible risk-benefit ratios as well.

Finally, it is really important to understand that reactions to pharmaceutical products are on a spectrum. Many people have no issues with vaccines at all, while other people have adverse reactions to them. This is why I belive that vaccines themselves can be beneficial in many cases, but vaccine MANDATES are extremely cruel as they coerce people into a medical intervention that is not one-size-fits-all.

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BPOP's avatar

Sounds like half truths to me.

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Kika's avatar

This is an excellent article which will tell you all about measles and the attempt to turn this usually harmless event into the next pandemic.

https://news.rebekahbarnett.com.au/p/measles-a-balanced-perspective-6c7

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BPOP's avatar

There is no virus.

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Light Love and Truth's avatar

Like-minded pediatrician here. Great article and absolutely a topic we should be discussing more! The implications to a mother and her baby are significant.

Just a couple of thoughts: the reduction in respiratory distress is likely not due to any mechanical "squeeze" of the lungs forcing fluid out. Indeed, the head is the only body part that is truly compressed, with the exception of a shoulder dystocia or an unusual breech presentation. The thorax experiences minimal pressure during delivery.

Rather, it appears to be due to prostaglandins that are released during labor and ready the lungs for the first breath. Interestingly, mothers who labored and then ended up with an emergent section have a rate of RDS that more closely resembles a vaginal birth, (excluding pathologies such as prematurity, meconium aspiration, PROM and PPROM, and maternal infection).

Equally fascinating is the effect of labor on the microbiota. Babies are not necessarily colonized with mother's flora only during passage through the birth canal. It is clear that during labor, a translocation of maternal flora happens, (probably rectal, though the discovery that the placenta may have its own microbiome opens up a lot of crazy questions). How do we know? The microbiome and gut flora in babies delivered by emergent section AFTER maternal labor much more closely resembles that of a baby born vaginally. Babies born by planned or elective sections have markedly different profiles of gut bacterial, which as you have thoroughly noted, leads to a number of chronic health issues, (especially atopic or autoimmune disorders). The gut really is EVERYTHING.

My bottom line is this: it's clearly good to labor and it should be encouraged whenever possible. Certainly, there are conditions that warrant a section, though pushing for a trial of labor in a supervised setting should be considered more.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

In a supervised setting is not possible. The supervised setting is a trick, it’s an assembly line leading straight to a C-section.

Having an OB with a knife anywhere around a pregnant woman is a cascade toward a C-section.

Home birth is best.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

When all goes well, home birth can be ok. But when things go bad in OB, they go bad quickly. Why would anyone take that chance for the health of their baby or themselves?One can have a great experience during a hospital birth.

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JC's avatar

RIP Aurora Dawn. She didn't make it to hospital in time (home birth.) Circa 1990's.

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Light Love and Truth's avatar

I think what's "best" is for women to have a variety of options and truly informed consent. Then, she can choose what feels right to her, knowing the benefits AND risks. Nothing in life is without risk, right?

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Max T's avatar

"The dogs in Amish puppy mills are often overbred, meaning they are forced to produce litter after litter with little to no recovery time between pregnancies. This relentless cycle of breeding takes a severe toll on the physical and mental health of the mother dogs. Over time, the constant strain of pregnancy and nursing weakens their bodies, leading to chronic health issues such as uterine infections, mastitis, and overall physical exhaustion. Additionally, the lack of proper veterinary care exacerbates these conditions, leaving the dogs to suffer in silence. The overbreeding practices further highlight the inhumane treatment these animals endure and underscore the need for stricter regulations and oversight to protect them."

Jesus be careful to ALL AND STAY WELL SAFE

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

True. Life itself is risk. Risk is fear. Faith conquers fear.

FEAR is the strongest tool to use to control others.

Everyone in the entire history of the world has always been born by HomeBirth until about 100 years ago.

Homebirth is a natural way to go, and it is supposed to be painful.

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Light Love and Truth's avatar

Totally agree with your thoughts on fear. Fear activates our amygdala/limbic system (primitive brain) and keeps us from using our frontal cortex (higher functioning brain) to make rational, well thought out decisions. Might be helpful if you're being chased by a bear, and not so conducive if you are trying to determine the best birth plan.

All women are different, our babies and pregnancies are unique, as are our social and family circumstances. As such, I stand by the belief that there is no "one size fits all" birth. Some women really do need medical support and closer supervision during birth. And some do not. Homebirth may be our heritage, but it's not right for every woman. Increased birth options truly benefit all.

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Andrew Dickens's avatar

A C-section scar blocks nine acupuncture meridians and one of which is the stomach meridian which energizes the breast. In all breast cancers then check for a C-section scar among other necessary problematic concerns such as teeth, etc.

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Nuala Norris's avatar

Does this include neat bikini-line scars?

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Jen Koenig's avatar

The incision wasn’t 2”, the scar is. I was larger when they cut me. Once I got back to my pre pregnancy size the scar was very small. Emergency is very different from planned. They take their time when there’s no fetal distress.

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Jen Koenig's avatar

Huh, My c-section scar is two inches long below the public hair line. You're telling me there are NINE meridians in that two inch section? Mine was a planned c-section though. Maybe emergency ones are worse? And if emergency c-sections are caused by vaginal births gone wrong, maybe those risks should be put in the vaginal birth column instead of the c-section column?

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Kalinda's avatar

Lucky you. My child would never have made it out of a 2 inch incision and he was only 7 lbs. My scar runs 10.5 inches right above where a bikini underwear line would be. Inconvenient as all get out, for sure. I also had a stitch that surfaced for 24 years ( yes, my Dr. told me well after the fact that some stitches don't dissolve and can eventually make their way to the surface, who knew?) and the scar has been nothing but trouble for me. And yet there were supposedly no issues with the C-section but that was from the outside looking in, not living with it.

It's not that I think no one should have one, but I do think people should be better informed. I was supposed to have had Placentia Previa, though had no symptoms nor was the placenta blocking anything. It was probably for the best, but I would have liked to have had more information, not just about the c-section, but the best way to heal after. I got bupkis for that.

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Brenda Dyson's avatar

I'm a craniosacral therapist and can always tell if a person was born by C-section (unless they have received numerous sessions of CST prior to seeing me). Going through the birth canal presses the skull and is necessary for a healthy cranial motion. I doubt if studies have been done but I wonder if some of the neurological issues are due to sluggish cerebrospinal fluid movement. A healthy system feels like the movement of a dolphin. Trauma can cause it to feel like a shark swimming. People born by C section feel like I'm holding a heavy globe in my hands. There's a little bit of movement and if I follow that and assist that, it begins to increase in amplitude. It typically requires 10 to 20 sessions in adults. Five sessions in children. Too bad it's not part of standard of care. It's great for mothers and babies born vaginally too.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

I believe you, Brenda. Just ignore Jen.

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Max T's avatar

What is with these articles and the paywall and poster BLOCKING COMMENTS TELLING the truth and exposing the nonsense it is RIDICULOUS INSANITY with some of the FAKE GRIFT BS going on JESUS CHRIST

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Jen Koenig's avatar

There is no difference in the skulls of adults with a c-section or not. Please stop with the psuedoscience.

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Brenda Dyson's avatar

It's amazing that every time that I make a public comment about craniosacral therapy there is always at least one person who gets angry about what I say and calls it a pseudoscience. I wonder why someone who calls herself a health coach would be so ignorant about this amazing form of bodywork. I suggest that you receive sessions from a few practitioners and open your mind. I've been practicing craniosacral therapy, visceral manipulation, neural manipulation and Rolfing for over 30 years. I've learned from amazing osteopaths from Europe. I've helped thousands of people. I receive referrals from many different kinds of doctors (some are surgeons at the Mayo clinic). I have many professionals as clients, including doctors and scientists. They don't label it a pseudoscience. Your comment just means that you have some learning to do before you know anything about what you're talking about. And before you judge people, perhaps you should know more about them. I have a master's degree in nutrition, so it's not like I'm part of some kind of pseudoscience cult. Truthfully, I don't really care what you think, it's just that you are in a position to influence other people. Ever since Stephen Barrett created his website "Quack watch", I've heard people using the term pseudoscience referring to craniosacral therapy. I had a long email exchange with him and he too was ignorant about what craniosacral therapy is. It was obvious that he was trying to continue the legacy of the Flexner report. He stopped communicating with me when I asked him who was funding him. He was also eventually banned from testifying in court cases because the judges said he was biased towards an agenda of discrediting anything other than pharmaceutical approaches to healing.

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Jen Koenig's avatar

Wow, touchy. I didn't call your entire profession pseudoscience, just the idea that you can tell from an adult skull whether a person was birthed c-section or not. The rest of your rant is just yourself arguing with a strawman that doesn't exist. I am a huge fan of craniosacral therapy and find it very useful and theraputic. I will say it again - I am a hug fan of craniosacral therapy and find it very useful and theraputic. Yet I still find your claim about skulls and c-sections pseudoscientific.

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Brenda Dyson's avatar

Well, if you were a practitioner and could feel the cranial motion,you would know whether or not a person was born by C section. Either born by C section or experienced head trauma in order for the cranial motion to be so reduced or undetectable. I've been a practitioner for over 30 years. I can put my hands on a person's ankles and tell where the fascial restrictions are anywhere in the body. I can feel the subtle motion of each nerve in the body. I can find where in the brain,bthe concussion occurred without looking at an MRI. I can feel a tension pattern release deep in the body or in the brain with very light contact. I have learned these skills from very advanced teachers and through years of practice. It's only considered pseudoscience by those who can't feel it or measure it. My clientele don't consider it pseudoscience. I've worked for years with hundreds of NFL players and other people with head trauma. I don't advertise at all and my practice is full. So what I am saying is that you simply don't know what you don't know.

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Nuala Norris's avatar

Delighted to hear that all this is possible. 🙏🏻 There was no “rant” element in what you calmly stated.

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Sebrina Carter's avatar

And you accuse her of being touchy when you just attacked her by calling what she does pseudoscience. How do you expect her to respond? Sheesh…

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Sebrina Carter's avatar

But are you a practitioner? How do you KNOW there is no difference?

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Truth101's avatar

Those multitude of studies are all conducted on forced vaccinated children — all those so called C section issues are also side effects of multitude of childhood vaccines

So your article makes very little sense as to benefits vs risks on children born with C section

For mothers it’s a different story .

However saying kids born to c section have issues - 🤯

No studies have been done to prove this !

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SteveO's avatar

Amen!!! The 800 lb Gorilla is seen. WOW!!!

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Debby's avatar

Since my first two births were fast, 4.5 hours and 2.5 hours, we decided to have our third baby at home. We took home birthing classes. My doctor tried to talk us out of it. He said he was an obstetrician, and he wouldn't consider having a baby at home. If something went wrong, his wife would never forgive him. I was 19 days late and scheduled to be induced, but went into labor the night before. Whew. All went well, even though he was a big baby at 9.5 pounds. Which probably why my labor was 4 hours.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

You did the right thing. Home birth is always best for both the mother and the baby.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Not so.

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Jen's avatar
May 1Edited

The first child I had was a vaginal birth and I ended up with pelvic floor issues. Another hugely overlooked problem with childbirth! The next two (and last) were b/g twins that ended up being an emergency c-section at 34 weeks. I concur with this article that my c-section was way worse than a normal birth. It was very painful and now over 6 years later the scar still bothers me at times. The twins were in the NICU for three weeks and did fine. My husband stopped them from giving the Hep B shot while I was in another room unable to move from my C-section. We told them several times no shots yet they tried to vaccinate my premature twins on the same day as the c-section when my daughter only weighed three pounds! Nursing was very difficult but I was determined to do so because I knew they were already at a disadvantage after their c-section. Our OBGYN agreed to do some vaginal seeding and their nursing improved (although still difficult) after an independent lactation specialist recommended surgery for a tongue tie. The independent lactation consultant also noticed my son was unable to turn his head to the right because his sister was sitting on him. We took him to a pediatric chiropractor who made the same assessment and after a few appointments he improved. There was so many things that we learned in real time and were fortunate to meet the right people at the right time to help us through it all. Today all my children are all fully unvaccinated and doing quite well.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Good for you! To me, it’s criminal how aggressive MDs have become.

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Ruth H's avatar

Both my sons were born via c-section for two of the reasons you listed. My first after being in labor over two days and finally going to delivery room, the doctor determined the child was facing the wrong way, attempted several times to turn but the baby kept flipping right back. Then rushed to OR for emergency c-section. Labor started with second child and after doctor visit determined the baby was breech. Tried to turn position but couldn’t, so another c-section. This time I was able to stay awake though for the wonderful birth. Both sons have always done well and stayed healthy. 🙏 I guess I just have stubborn babies when the time comes for birth, but after are the sweetest babies ever.

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Lisa's avatar

Three children, three C-sections, first was pre-eclampsia, two weeks past due date. My second child, also past due date, no sign of labor, tried to do vaginal birth, induced labor, no contractions, led to a c-section. Third child, I just scheduled, all are healthy adults, and with the exception of middle child having gastrointestinal issues do I see any problems.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

You are one of the lucky ones.

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Erin's avatar

Thank you for covering this topic. I’m currently 34 weeks pregnant with my first and just transferred care from hospital midwives to a home birth midwife. After touring the hospital “birthing center” I learned their c-section rate was close to 40%, and unfortunately all hospitals in my area had comparable rates. Obstetricians and “medwives” should be ashamed if they don’t have the skills to avoid unnecessary c-sections. It also really breaks my heart to see doctors scare mothers into scheduling their c-sections in advance based on unproven risks like a “large baby.”

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

👏🏻 good for you, Erin. Home birth is always best for both the mother and the baby. Labor pains are normal and are meant to hurt. Faith vanquishes fear - and faith vanquishes pain. Be brave.

The entire history of the human race has always been homebirth, up until about 100 years ago.

Keep the faith, lose their fear.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

And prehistoric humans died at 40. Not all that was natural was good.

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Erin's avatar

This isn't entirely true, many humans lived much later than average life expectancy in prehistoric times, well into their 70s and 80s. Life expectancy is calculated by mean, and childhood deaths were more common back then, skewing the mean younger. These deaths can be attributed to conditions like malnutrition and poor sanitation.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No, prehistoric humans live longer than we do. Read your Bible.

All that is natural is good.

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Darya's avatar
May 1Edited

I had a scheduled c-section and it was a wonderful experience. My son was measuring extremely large and I was terrified of natural birth followed by an emergency c-section. Anyway, the recovery was super easy, the scar is very small and hidden under a mid-rise bikini. I’m a health nut and always gave my son probiotics, then later also kefir after 12 months. Find a good OBGYN and don’t be afraid. But do skip the Hep B vaccine!

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Dr Tara Slatton's avatar

My sister went the natural birth followed by emergency C-section for a big baby and I have to say, you made a good call. That was horrific. Also avoidable but unfortunately her OB was a moron.

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SF Med's avatar

Clearly anecdotal. Good job Doc, way to keep gaslighting those patients.

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