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Igor Chudov's avatar

Great post. From a historical perspective, such incredibly reckless (at a minimum) developments do not end well and could result in mass death or disablement.

I know one young and previously vaccinated person who clearly has some immunity problem, very often seriously sick with non-covid illnesses (and covid too) , hospitailzed etc, plus long covid, that do not spread to the rest of his unvaccinated family, despite the rest of the family not being more than of average health.

How likely is it, in your opinion, that the post-vaccine problems such as immune deficiency, will actually significantly affect our demographics?

(I hope that the answer and the end result will be that these concerns will not materialize)

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Ted's avatar

For your statements of fact and critical analyses of them, I thank you.

Your observations regarding obscurantism and outright deception help provide context to a societal dynamic that has puzzled me for some years. There seems to be some sort of "don't ask, don't tell" dynamic regarding vaccine injury within the social contract, or so it appears to me.

Approximately a decade ago, I noticed something I considered rather odd. Mainstream expressions of opinion about the so-called "anti-vax movement" became increasingly devoid of information, becoming little more than exersizes in sneering dismissal.

Being supportive of vaccination writ large, but agnostic in relation to any given detail, I decided to explore the claims of what I thought a rather extreme fringe "movement." I was genuinely surprised at what I found, which was a rather wide range of opinion within a broad spectrum.

Within that continuum are viewpoints ranging from parents who wonder if administering innoculations in highly concentrated clusters might be inferior to spreading them out over a longer period of time with fewer combinations, to "vaccines are all pure poison!" The public narrative made no concession to such diversity of inquiry and opinion.

In a manner you might find touchingly naive, Doctor, I thought that this imbalance could be obviated with recognition of facts and a wee bit of compassion. After all, I reasoned, those who are injured and killed by adverse reactions to vaccines have sacrificed themselves for the good of us all and deserve to have their sacrifices recognized. I had thought that we all owe a debt of gratitude to these unfortunates, small in number as they are.

When I mentioned my exploration, discovery and conclusion to others, the responses were quite interesting. Universally, recognition of the injured and dead was vehemently opposed.

Ordinary individuals considered such recognition misplaced. The most telling example of this was expressed by an old soldier who thought that recognition was a form of "false valor" because few give fully informed consent to innoculation. I thought this a sensible viewpoint, and hearing it clarified a number of things for me.

What was most telling, however, was the reaction of the erudite. I was truly stunned by it. The wall of dissembling erected by their verbose deflections was impressive and disheatening. Time after time, I was confronted with extraordinary feats of rhetorical legerdemain. It was immediately apparent that such dishonesty was manipulative in nature and relied on a smug elitism that would brook no moderation whatsoever.

You have suggested that this is a form of gaslighting, Doc, and I have to agree. I find the varying motives self-serving, in the main. in it's simplest form, it seems to be some sort of a "whistling past the graveyard." Within the more complex and persistent "arguments" lies a combination of hubris and self-aggrandizement.

I truly appreciate the perspective that you bring to this subject. It seemed to me that the sort of reactions I encountered could not have arisen spontaneously. It became clearer with the advent of horrifyingly nonsensical and seemingly counterfactual hysteria in the official response to Covid.

A series of intersecting patterns have emerged, clarified by a few brave and knowledgeable souls such as yourself. You are providing a benefit to humanity in ways that will not be fully appreciated for a very long time. When providing a dominant narrative is considered preferable to maintenance of core values such as honesty and compassion, application of a corrective becomes necessary.

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